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From: SIRPip on 29 Jul 2010 05:53 ginge wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:37:18 +0100, frag <news4(a)ukrm.co.uk> wrote: > > > In article <4c500dc2$0$12168$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk>, nul(a)0.0.0.0 > > says... > >> > >> The return on investment is worth it though: any new house will > have >> stupid amounts of insulation put in but the pay back in > heating bills is >> extremely quick: it's a far better buy than solar > panels for instance. > > > > You appear to have forgotten about the fact you would need to > > install some quite beefy split air conditioning to get the place > > down to a reasonable temperature in the summer. It is a bit of an odd building, reflecting the oddness of the owner, I guess. The coolest room is his 'playroom' which is 8m by 12m and full (~15m to apex) height to the underdrawn (and heavily insulated) roof (bar the mezz floor where his computer and officey stuff lives), with one large conventional window and several roof windows. Despite the floor being insulated with the polystyrene within the concrete plus the martial arts matting which covers the whole floor (hence playroom) and the stone walls also being heavily insulated it doesn't get as mad hot as the rest of the place. It isn't a very sociable room to use as a reception room, though - what with the blood and snot up the walls, that sort of thing. > > Except insulation works both ways, and in cavity wall insulation for > example will reduce the amount of heat from a sunbeaten exterior wall > radiating through an interior one. > > HTH. There's no cavity in this case - solid dressed stone walls about a metre thick that were originally intended to be left exposed. The Building Inspector wasn't having any of that, though: there's sprayed foam to approx 5cm with a smooth finish, followed by 10cm of foil-faced polystyrene, fronted with plasterboard. I can't see how the exterior temperature would have any effect on the interior whatsoever with all that lot, unless one were foolish enough to open a (substantially double glazed) window. It does, though - and yes, it must be solar gain related through the roof and all the insulation within its construction, but the heat fills the house and even with every window open after sunset the place will not, or cannot, shed its stored heat to a comfortable level for sleeping. -- SIRPip : B12
From: frag on 29 Jul 2010 15:30 In article <xn0gx7hrf4hggfq00l(a)news.eternal-september.org>, gingerbloke(a)gmail.com says... > > There's no cavity in this case - solid dressed stone walls about a > metre thick that were originally intended to be left exposed. The > Building Inspector wasn't having any of that, though: there's sprayed > foam to approx 5cm with a smooth finish, followed by 10cm of foil-faced > polystyrene, fronted with plasterboard. Stupid. Not "save on heating bills" that is stupid, but not having an air gap or other form of barrier. The foil faced poly doesn't work very well if it's got something touching either side of it. And the thicker the insulation they put in, it means that it'll take longer for the outside heat to get in, and it'll take longer for it to dissipate too, and with 1m thick stone walls, god, they're going to be able to store *plenty* of heat for long enough for it to slowly seep through the foam/poly. > I can't see how the exterior temperature would have any effect on the > interior whatsoever with all that lot, unless one were foolish enough > to open a (substantially double glazed) window. It does, though - and > yes, it must be solar gain related through the roof and all the > insulation within its construction, but the heat fills the house and > even with every window open after sunset the place will not, or cannot, > shed its stored heat to a comfortable level for sleeping. -- frag MicroPlanet Gravity Newsreader V3.0 http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/
From: Salad Dodger on 29 Jul 2010 19:28 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:18:33 +0000 (UTC), wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote: >> Noyerie my ear'ole, folk should go here instead. :) > >is there a website? Only a properly commercial one. All bookings done via a UK Travel Co. Unfortunately. "Ivagntr Geniry" iyswim. I have no financial, etc.
From: Champ on 30 Jul 2010 04:15 On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:28:42 +0100, Salad Dodger <salad.dodger(a)idnet.com> wrote: >>> Noyerie my ear'ole, folk should go here instead. :) >> >>is there a website? > >Only a properly commercial one. > >All bookings done via a UK Travel Co. > >Unfortunately. > >"Ivagntr Geniry" iyswim. I really don't see what you mean, I'm afraid. -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: Salad Dodger on 30 Jul 2010 04:18
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:15:10 +0100, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >I really don't see what you mean, I'm afraid. It's the name of the travel company, ROT13'd. |