Cessna 'incident'
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From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on 7 Aug 2010 14:19 Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> typed >Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote: > >> If the CAA were to find out they'd be deeply unimpressed. They take a >> *very* dim view of anyone who runs out of fuel. > >Which begs another question. Are there any small civil aircraft with >have a 1200 Bandit-like small fuel range? And if so, which ones? Many (most) light aicraft are unable to fly with full-tanks and a full load of passengers. Two pie-eaters in a Cessna 150 for example, and you're *very* fuel-limited if you want to stay legal. So the question's hard to answer accurately. Whilst big tanks may be fitted, you can't fill them unless you want to taxy to your destination. Fuel planning is a big part of flight planning. You know what the thing burns, you know how long it'll take you to get there, and you *should* dip the tanks to see what's on board (fuel gauges are usually pretty useless). Allow for diversions, and then add some for luck. People still run out quite regularly though. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" I've always been a man who's open to persuasion
From: crn on 7 Aug 2010 15:28 In uk.rec.motorcycles The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > On 8/7/2010 12:16 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote: > > > J. Clarke<jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > > >> Been a long time since I ran anything out of gas. On the other hand I > > >> did put 54 gallons in the 52.5 gallon tank on a Cessna once. > > > > > > Wow. That must have been preceded by some rather worrying moments :-0 > > > > Well, it cut out on me about five miles out from the airport. I got set > > up on a pasture and was yelling MOVE YOU EFFING SHEEP when it started up > > again. I figured that nose down it was getting some "non usable fuel" > > so I put the first notch of flaps down and aimed for the next pasture > > over. The third or fourth pasture got me in gliding range of the runway. > > (X-posted to ukrm, where there are a few pilots.) > > Does that count as a notifiable incident or anything? Either in the US > or UK? Or is it a case of "any landing you an walk away from...."? Safety related so definitely reportable. The important bit is missing - why did it happen. Possible causes include trusting the guages instead of dipping the tanks and failing to correctly lean the mixture to the weak side of peak EGT in the cruise. Confession is good for the soul. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project 78 Honda 400/4 in black 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 7 Aug 2010 20:07 We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> saying something like: >If the CAA were to find out they'd be deeply unimpressed. They take a >*very* dim view of anyone who runs out of fuel. Heh. Don't they just. Roast arses all round, ime.
From: Kevin Gleeson on 7 Aug 2010 22:01 On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 18:43:35 +0100, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> On 8/7/2010 12:16 PM, The Older Gentleman wrote: >> > J. Clarke<jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Been a long time since I ran anything out of gas. On the other hand I >> >> did put 54 gallons in the 52.5 gallon tank on a Cessna once. >> > >> > Wow. That must have been preceded by some rather worrying moments :-0 >> >> Well, it cut out on me about five miles out from the airport. I got set >> up on a pasture and was yelling MOVE YOU EFFING SHEEP when it started up >> again. I figured that nose down it was getting some "non usable fuel" >> so I put the first notch of flaps down and aimed for the next pasture >> over. The third or fourth pasture got me in gliding range of the runway. > >(X-posted to ukrm, where there are a few pilots.) > >Does that count as a notifiable incident or anything? Either in the US >or UK? Or is it a case of "any landing you an walk away from...."? And again on aircraft fuel threads. I was making an approach to a primary control airfield. I was on downwind approach, alongside the airfield but a few hundred feet to the west of the strip (which is a jet strip). As I descended to 1000ft AGL I reached over to pull carburettor heat on and as a slight design stupidity in Piper Cherokees had the carb heat lever and the mixture control in almost identical levers right next to each other, I pulled the mixture control back to cut off didn't I? As the engine spluttered I realised what I had done and rammed the lever back up again. But as we were on approach and over a heavily wooded area, it would have been fun and games to get the aircraft down safely. Mind you, being a jet strip, I reckon the go would have been just veer off to the left and do a downwind landing on a very long runway. Certainly got my attention that day though. -- Kev
From: darsy on 9 Aug 2010 06:30
On Aug 7, 7:19 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote: > People still run out quite regularly though. or irregularly. The Gimli Glider comes to mind. -- d. |