From: Pip Luscher on
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:05:17 +0000, Silk <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:

>I drive a car, like most normal people. I just happen to be rather good
>at it.

Based on what? Whose opinion, other than your own? What aspect of
driving? Vehicle control on the road? Race track? Dirt? If on the
road, how do you know you're in good control? Observeance of the law/
good practice/ courtesy? Measured how?

I don't personally claim any special driving prowess BTW; I'm almost
certainly on the average side of average. But I've never measured it.
I *have* had an obseved m'cycle rideout, which went reasonably well,
but that's all since my test.

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From: SteveH on
Pip Luscher <pluscher(a)live.invalid.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:05:17 +0000, Silk <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >I drive a car, like most normal people. I just happen to be rather good
> >at it.
>
> Based on what? Whose opinion, other than your own? What aspect of
> driving? Vehicle control on the road? Race track? Dirt? If on the
> road, how do you know you're in good control? Observeance of the law/
> good practice/ courtesy? Measured how?
>
> I don't personally claim any special driving prowess BTW; I'm almost
> certainly on the average side of average. But I've never measured it.
> I *have* had an obseved m'cycle rideout, which went reasonably well,
> but that's all since my test.

ISTR he's one of those 'advanced driver' smug gits.
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SteveH
From: Catman on
Silk wrote:
> On 22/11/2009 17:17, Catman wrote:
>> Silk wrote:
>>> On 22/11/2009 14:07, R C Nesbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> So why didn't you?
>>>
>>> Bikers and lorry drivers are two sides of the same coin. Both pig
>>> ignorant and think they're better than everyone else, in spite of
>>> having a death wish.
>>
>> So are you a biker, or a lorry driver?
>
> I drive a car, like most normal people. I just happen to be rather good
> at it.

Ahh sorry. Confusion there. Since you are pig ignorant and think you're
better than everyone else, I thought you must be one or the other. Mea
culpa.

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From: Silk on
On 22/11/2009 22:38, Pip Luscher wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:05:17 +0000, Silk<me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> I drive a car, like most normal people. I just happen to be rather good
>> at it.
>
> Based on what? Whose opinion, other than your own? What aspect of
> driving? Vehicle control on the road? Race track? Dirt? If on the
> road, how do you know you're in good control? Observeance of the law/
> good practice/ courtesy? Measured how?

I'm an expert in road driving. IAM advanced, IAM Observer, 50,000 miles
a year business driver for over 20 years and general road driving
enthusiast. As I've said, I'm not the best, but I think you'll agree my
extra training and vast experience qualifies me more than most who don't
do anything other than pass a basic test.
>
> I don't personally claim any special driving prowess BTW; I'm almost
> certainly on the average side of average. But I've never measured it.
> I *have* had an obseved m'cycle rideout, which went reasonably well,
> but that's all since my test.

I don't claim anything superhuman and I'm certainly not what you would
call a naturally good driver, but I've put the work in, so that
qualifies me to have more of an opinion than some people on this group
(uk.r.d) who mock from the sidelines.

From: Steve Firth on
Andy Bonwick <nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

> It's obvious really because people wanting to take their motorcycle
> test are trained by motorcyclists and the pass rate is pretty high.

That explains why the standard of riding in this country is so low.
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