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From: Harry Bloomfield on 26 Nov 2009 17:43 Conor presented the following explanation : > You're not required to so if you do, its of your own volition. The lorry > driver is neither asking or expecting you to. ...and he could sit there waiting to get out for an hour, until someone decides to let him out. > > >> Why is it encumbent upon me to hold back and >> hold back the vehicles behind me when a truck is struggling his way >> around a tight two lane roundabout, when I could easily fly past him at >> no risk to me. > > Because there is a risk to you, dumbass. No risk to me, I said I could have whistled past him at no risk - as in before we get to the roundabout and be on my way. Instead I hold back and let him see I am holding back. It gets him through the roundabout with a minimum of delay and I soon be past him once clear of the roundabout. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
From: boltar2003 on 27 Nov 2009 04:54 On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:07:12 -0000 "Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >"Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >news:mn.d5297d9ba09cd718.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... >> boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk explained : >>> Anyone who says a curved road is >>> safer than a straight one and would make the slightest difference to >>> whether >>> a driver falls asleep at the wheel or not is a liar or a buffoon. Or in >>> the >>> case of politicians probably both. >> >> ..and the straighter they are, the further ahead you can see, the better >> your chance of spotting problems ahead and slowing down. > >That's the theory. Doesn't necessarily work in real life. People compensate >for that extra visibility by driving faster. Bloater's also pretty much >completely wrong with his falling asleep comment. Really? Show us some evidence proving me wrong then. I find it very hard to believe that turning a steering wheel slightly has the slightest effect on whether someone nods off. Even on a straight road you have to keep correcting anyway so I fail to see the difference. So come on , post a link to the evidence supporting your argument. B2003
From: boltar2003 on 27 Nov 2009 04:56 On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:39:12 +0000 Pip Luscher <pluscher(a)live.invalid.co.uk> wrote: >>for modern vehicles on tarmac roads. If the railways generally can be built >>straight or with gentle curves so can the roads. > >So take a train. Riiight. And if I'm going somewhere that doesn't have a station or I need to carry a load of stuff? >>I dread to think of the >>amount of fuel wasted by all manor of vehicles constantly slowing down for >>endless bends in the road then having to speed up again. Even the bloody >>motorways in this country can't be built straight FFS even though compulsary >>land purchase is a must with these projects anyway. > >That's fine if all you ever want to do is get from A to B. For many, >the journey itself is also a destination. I suspect they're a small minority and even if the roads are straight they could just take a roundabout route if they really like going around corners that much. B2003
From: Clive George on 27 Nov 2009 06:56 <boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:heo7kk$8v1$1(a)aioe.org... > On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:07:12 -0000 > "Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >>"Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:mn.d5297d9ba09cd718.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... >>> boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk explained : >>>> Anyone who says a curved road is >>>> safer than a straight one and would make the slightest difference to >>>> whether >>>> a driver falls asleep at the wheel or not is a liar or a buffoon. Or in >>>> the >>>> case of politicians probably both. >>> >>> ..and the straighter they are, the further ahead you can see, the better >>> your chance of spotting problems ahead and slowing down. >> >>That's the theory. Doesn't necessarily work in real life. People >>compensate >>for that extra visibility by driving faster. Bloater's also pretty much >>completely wrong with his falling asleep comment. > > Really? Show us some evidence proving me wrong then. I find it very hard > to > believe that turning a steering wheel slightly has the slightest effect on > whether someone nods off. Even on a straight road you have to keep > correcting > anyway so I fail to see the difference. > > So come on , post a link to the evidence supporting your argument. It's part of a rather larger malaise, but see accident rates in the US vs here. A lot of the stuff they do because they can get away with it a large part of the time isn't nearly as easy over here. And you do know there's rather more to negotiating a corner than simply turning a steering wheel, don't you? You even mentioned part of it earlier. If you're honestly saying that a curvy road is as soporific as a dead straight one, there's not much hope for you.
From: boltar2003 on 27 Nov 2009 07:30
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:56:51 -0000 "Clive George" <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >It's part of a rather larger malaise, but see accident rates in the US vs >here. A lot of the stuff they do because they can get away with it a large >part of the time isn't nearly as easy over here. The USA isn't the only country with fairly straight roads. What about the rest of north and south america? A large proportion of europe (not counting italy) , the far east etc? IN fact very few countries have the twee little winding country lane type of road we have to suffer with and most have pretty straight motorways too. >And you do know there's rather more to negotiating a corner than simply >turning a steering wheel, don't you? You even mentioned part of it earlier. Not on a motorway which was the example I was using. >If you're honestly saying that a curvy road is as soporific as a dead >straight one, there's not much hope for you. On a motorway it is. B2003 |