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From: Champ on 27 Jul 2010 12:37
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:01:37 +0100, "ian field"
<gangprobing.alien(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Renault vehicle sales aren't solely dependent on people buying
>> performance cars with race pedigree. F1 racing is a sideline for them,
>> not their raison d'etre.
>>
>> The same can't be said to apply to Ferrari.

>Its the same old mantra for Renault; "win on Sunday, sell on Monday",
>there's no shortage of mugs who think there's some sort of correlation
>between what teams like Renault spend trying to get on the podium, and the
>quality/performance of the throw togethers they punt out of the showrooms.

Are you serious? Do you really believe that anyone buys a Renault
because of any success they might have in F1?

No, they do it for these reasons:
- global brand marketing - it gets their name out to a billion people.
Why do you think Vodafone sponsor McClaren? Do you think anyone signs
up for a Vodafone mobile contract because a McClaren wins a race?
- to give their engineers a mental gym to work out in, before
returning to solve problems related to production cars
- perhaps, maybe, the occasional R&D spin-off. If you're lucky.

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Champ
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From: J�r�my on 27 Jul 2010 13:01
Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in
news:i2msfd$4ej$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:

>>> Either are acceptable. There may be a small prize for someone that
>>> can detail the conversion process.
>>
>> Obviously, from the units, 1 whale = (sqrt(1 Wales).x)^3
>>
>> (where x is quite small)
>
> Your Werther's Original, sir.

I'm on my way. The Fields medal is within my grasp!

--
Jeremy
K1300GT
From: wessie on 27 Jul 2010 13:01
Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote in
news:oj2u46l1s2ja65btegem5tqmeegem2no9q(a)4ax.com:

> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:01:37 +0100, "ian field"
> <gangprobing.alien(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Renault vehicle sales aren't solely dependent on people buying
>>> performance cars with race pedigree. F1 racing is a sideline for
>>> them, not their raison d'etre.
>>>
>>> The same can't be said to apply to Ferrari.
>
>>Its the same old mantra for Renault; "win on Sunday, sell on Monday",
>>there's no shortage of mugs who think there's some sort of correlation
>>between what teams like Renault spend trying to get on the podium, and
>>the quality/performance of the throw togethers they punt out of the
>>showrooms.
>
> Are you serious? Do you really believe that anyone buys a Renault
> because of any success they might have in F1?
>

Maybe. Remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Clio#Clio_Williams ?

Their current marketing:
http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/roadcars/clio200/overview/Default.aspx

"The impressive new look incorporates F1-style frontal aerodynamics"

Just because you may not be susceptible to the hype does not mean it is not
working for Renault.

--
wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS
From: wessie on 27 Jul 2010 13:18
Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in news:i2n40m$65n$2
@news.eternal-september.org:

> J�r�my wrote:

>> The only numbers I used were one and three. Didn't you do those at
>> school?
>>
>
> AIUI he's stuck on 13.
>

seems quite common

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wessie at tesco dot net

BMW R1150GS
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 27 Jul 2010 13:42
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> saying
something like:

>McClaren

Woh?
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