From: crn on
Ben <ben(a)bensalesdotme.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:46:44 +0100, stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote:
>
> >> Arthur Ransome. If he's not ready yet he should be soon and they are a
> >> cracking good read.
> >
> >I'm really not sure that Swallows and Amazons works now. It seemed a
> >little dated (in retrospect) when I read it close to 40 years ago; and
> >to be honest I don't think that 70-80 year old books will encourage a
> >voracious reader.
>
> Ransome's, and Malcolm Saville's novels set around the Long Mynd make
> sense if you can show the kid the Lake District and the Mynd area.
> Then a kid (as I did) can match a real place, with a real sense of
> adventure and get something extra from the novels.

Indeed, it helps if the kids have some idea of context before they can
really enjoy books about messing around in boats. Get them on the
water (even briefly) then give them some Ransome books.

In general, modern children spend far too much time indoors and lack
a sense of adventure.

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From: petrolcan on
In article <hvn422$9sm$1(a)news.albasani.net>, crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com says...

> In general, modern children spend far too much time indoors and lack
> a sense of adventure.

In my day etc etc..

FFS
From: sweller on
crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:

> Indeed, it helps if the kids have some idea of context before they can
> really enjoy books about messing around in boats. Get them on the
> water (even briefly) then give them some Ransome books.
>
> In general, modern children spend far too much time indoors and lack
> a sense of adventure.

Slightly misses the point as reading tends to be a solitary indoor
activity.

....anyway, in your mythical 1930s existence, how many children went round
solving mysteries involving "people who look a bit foreign" or even, for
that matter, set up an island home in the Lake District.

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Simon
From: Champ on
On 21 Jun 2010 05:32:19 GMT, "sweller" <sweller(a)mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Ben wrote:
>
>> Famous Five
>> Swallows & Amazons
>> Secret Seven
>> etc

>I recall absolutely loathing all of them.

Really? I loved them.
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From: Champ on
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:46:44 +0100, stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote:

>> Arthur Ransome. If he's not ready yet he should be soon and they are a
>> cracking good read.

>I'm really not sure that Swallows and Amazons works now. It seemed a
>little dated (in retrospect) when I read it close to 40 years ago; and
>to be honest I don't think that 70-80 year old books will encourage a
>voracious reader.

<shrug>

They were already a complete anachronism when I read them, and the
class they were set in (upper-middle class in the country) was so
different from my life (lower-middle class boy from the suburbs) that
they might have been set on another planet.

But isn't that sort of the point of reading - to venture into other
worlds?
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Champ
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