From: crn on 21 Jun 2010 03:23 Ben <ben(a)bensalesdotme.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:46:44 +0100, stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote: > > >> Arthur Ransome. If he's not ready yet he should be soon and they are a > >> cracking good read. > > > >I'm really not sure that Swallows and Amazons works now. It seemed a > >little dated (in retrospect) when I read it close to 40 years ago; and > >to be honest I don't think that 70-80 year old books will encourage a > >voracious reader. > > Ransome's, and Malcolm Saville's novels set around the Long Mynd make > sense if you can show the kid the Lake District and the Mynd area. > Then a kid (as I did) can match a real place, with a real sense of > adventure and get something extra from the novels. Indeed, it helps if the kids have some idea of context before they can really enjoy books about messing around in boats. Get them on the water (even briefly) then give them some Ransome books. In general, modern children spend far too much time indoors and lack a sense of adventure. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project 78 Honda 400/4 in black 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)
From: petrolcan on 21 Jun 2010 03:37 In article <hvn422$9sm$1(a)news.albasani.net>, crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com says... > In general, modern children spend far too much time indoors and lack > a sense of adventure. In my day etc etc.. FFS
From: sweller on 21 Jun 2010 04:01 crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: > Indeed, it helps if the kids have some idea of context before they can > really enjoy books about messing around in boats. Get them on the > water (even briefly) then give them some Ransome books. > > In general, modern children spend far too much time indoors and lack > a sense of adventure. Slightly misses the point as reading tends to be a solitary indoor activity. ....anyway, in your mythical 1930s existence, how many children went round solving mysteries involving "people who look a bit foreign" or even, for that matter, set up an island home in the Lake District. -- Simon
From: Champ on 21 Jun 2010 04:13 On 21 Jun 2010 05:32:19 GMT, "sweller" <sweller(a)mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >Ben wrote: > >> Famous Five >> Swallows & Amazons >> Secret Seven >> etc >I recall absolutely loathing all of them. Really? I loved them. -- Champ We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: Champ on 21 Jun 2010 04:17
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:46:44 +0100, stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote: >> Arthur Ransome. If he's not ready yet he should be soon and they are a >> cracking good read. >I'm really not sure that Swallows and Amazons works now. It seemed a >little dated (in retrospect) when I read it close to 40 years ago; and >to be honest I don't think that 70-80 year old books will encourage a >voracious reader. <shrug> They were already a complete anachronism when I read them, and the class they were set in (upper-middle class in the country) was so different from my life (lower-middle class boy from the suburbs) that they might have been set on another planet. But isn't that sort of the point of reading - to venture into other worlds? -- Champ We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk |