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From: wessie on 6 Feb 2010 19:34 steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote in news:9cF4tjCwbgbLFwo2 @auvache.force9.co.uk: > Sadly though this and the fact they are wonderfully reliable is a fact > completely wasted on the BMW and iProduct owners who you will find > constitute a majority of detractors in these parts. I've always thought Lozzo doth protest too much. -- wessie at tesco dot net BMW R1150GS
From: steve auvache on 6 Feb 2010 19:40 In article <Xns9D185C75B73Fwtymmmsas(a)188.40.43.213>, wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> writes >steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote in news:9cF4tjCwbgbLFwo2 >@auvache.force9.co.uk: > > >> Sadly though this and the fact they are wonderfully reliable is a fact >> completely wasted on the BMW and iProduct owners who you will find >> constitute a majority of detractors in these parts. > >I've always thought Lozzo doth protest too much. I am just waiting for the closet to open with a fanfair of true spikishness. -- steve auvache
From: wessie on 6 Feb 2010 19:57 steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote in news:Lci1duCsugbLFwP0(a)auvache.force9.co.uk: > >>Even Kawasaki's horrid ER5 > > I rather get the impression that these are not blessed with a good > longevity gene. Dunno why but they just seem that way to me, they get > tatty quickly. > > They look tatty but seem to carry on regardless. BGN tried several times to destroy his but it was resurrected by dealers or a subsequent owner with more TLC. I'm guessing, but I suspect a lot of the used ones on the market down your way are ex-courier or riding school bikes. -- wessie at tesco dot net BMW R1150GS
From: steve auvache on 6 Feb 2010 20:15 In article <Xns9D189B84A26Fwtymmmsas(a)188.40.43.213>, wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> writes >steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote in >news:Lci1duCsugbLFwP0(a)auvache.force9.co.uk: > > >> >>>Even Kawasaki's horrid ER5 >> >> I rather get the impression that these are not blessed with a good >> longevity gene. Dunno why but they just seem that way to me, they get >> tatty quickly. >> >> > >They look tatty but seem to carry on regardless. BGN tried several times to >destroy his but it was resurrected by dealers or a subsequent owner with >more TLC. > >I'm guessing, but I suspect a lot of the used ones on the market down your >way are ex-courier or riding school bikes. High mileage 500s? Not hard to tell the courier bikes as they have mega silly mileages and are usually stupidly cheap. Learner school bikes are a little harder to identify if they are trying to hide it but those I have seen in the past that admit to it are usually showing a lot of minor drop damage with high but not outrageous mileage. But oh yes, even I know to avoid them, now. Both good reasons why as a buyer I want to move out of the 500 market if I can. -- steve auvache
From: crn on 6 Feb 2010 20:59
steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote: > Restricted with a washer in the carbs to a theoretical max of 91, it > makes them gutless much above NSL1, especially with a less than > aerodynamic barrel of lard doing the piloting. Even without restriction > any speedo reading above NSL1.66 is probably an indication of the > rider's optimism rather than fact. According to a satnav in the tankbag mine pulls well up to about 100 then takes around a mile to creep up to 115. The secret is to use 5th gear for speed, 6th is an economy overdrive for bimbling between 50 and 100 with a lack of acceleration. In reality anything over about 85 puts a strain on my neck muscles so I seldom go above this for long. In my experience commuting the M5 from Clevedon to Taunton it was more than adequate to the task and certainly not noisy or uncomfortable. Most of the bad stories come from the large number of restricted ones on the market, if buying take it for a test ride and open it up in 5th. If it runs out of puff at around 95 it is restricted. The "official" restriction kit from around 2000 onwards uses modified carb slides which are expensive to replace. There is no easy way of telling if you have the carb slides until you remove the carbs and find that there are no aftermarket washers. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project 68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic) 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley) |