From: Polarhound on 8 Jun 2010 19:20 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703561604575282190930932412.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop Who is better informed about the policy choices facing the country�liberals, conservatives or libertarians? According to a Zogby International survey that I write about in the May issue of Econ Journal Watch, the answer is unequivocal: The left flunks Econ 101. Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and I considered the 4,835 respondents' (all American adults) answers to eight survey questions about basic economics. We also asked the respondents about their political leanings: progressive/very liberal; liberal; moderate; conservative; very conservative; and libertarian. Rather than focusing on whether respondents answered a question correctly, we instead looked at whether they answered incorrectly. A response was counted as incorrect only if it was flatly unenlightened. ... In this case, percentage of conservatives answering incorrectly was 22.3%, very conservatives 17.6% and libertarians 15.7%. But the percentage of progressive/very liberals answering incorrectly was 67.6% and liberals 60.1%. The pattern was not an anomaly. ... How did the six ideological groups do overall? Here they are, best to worst, with an average number of incorrect responses from 0 to 8: Very conservative, 1.30; Libertarian, 1.38; Conservative, 1.67; Moderate, 3.67; Liberal, 4.69; Progressive/very liberal, 5.26. Americans in the first three categories do reasonably well. But the left has trouble squaring economic thinking with their political psychology, morals and aesthetics. The survey also asked about party affiliation. Those responding Democratic averaged 4.59 incorrect answers. Republicans averaged 1.61 incorrect, and Libertarians 1.26 incorrect.
From: BryanUT on 8 Jun 2010 20:20 On Jun 8, 5:20 pm, Polarhound <polarho...(a)comcast.net> wrote: I don't mean to get personal here, but have you collected unemployment? Can you find a job at a wage that you are willing to accept? That article is written in the WSJ, who owns the WSJ? Oh yeah Rupert Murdoch: "Three months later, on August 1, 2007, News Corp. and Dow Jones entered into a definitive merger agreement.[22] The controversial US $5 billion sale added the Wall Street Journal to Rupert Murdoch's news empire, which already included Fox News Channel, financial network unit and London's The Times, and locally within New York, the New York Post, along with Fox flagship station WNYW (Channel 5) and MyNetworkTV flagship WWOR (Channel 9).[23]" Let's just skip the survey and "economic theory" and get back the results: http://www.slate.com/id/2199810/ http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/magazine/27wwln-idealab-t.html
From: Polarhound on 8 Jun 2010 20:22 BryanUT wrote: > On Jun 8, 5:20 pm, Polarhound <polarho...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > I don't mean to get personal here, but have you collected > unemployment? Can you find a job at a wage that you are willing to > accept? I don't see what collecting unemployment has to do with basic Economics intelligence in relation to political leanings. To answer your questions, though: Yes I have over the years, and Yes I did. As a matter of fact, I just got another $2/hr raise last month.
From: Polarhound on 8 Jun 2010 20:30 BryanUT wrote: > On Jun 8, 5:20 pm, Polarhound <polarho...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > I don't mean to get personal here, but have you collected > unemployment? Can you find a job at a wage that you are willing to > accept? > > That article is written in the WSJ, who owns the WSJ? Oh yeah Rupert > Murdoch: > > "Three months later, on August 1, 2007, News Corp. and Dow Jones > entered into a definitive merger agreement.[22] The controversial US > $5 billion sale added the Wall Street Journal to Rupert Murdoch's news > empire, which already included Fox News Channel, financial network > unit and London's The Times, and locally within New York, the New York > Post, along with Fox flagship station WNYW (Channel 5) and MyNetworkTV > flagship WWOR (Channel 9).[23]" > > Let's just skip the survey and "economic theory" and get back the > results: > > http://www.slate.com/id/2199810/ > > http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/magazine/27wwln-idealab-t.html I should also mention the more than slight amusement of the link selection YOU gave, specifically two well known Left-Of-Lenin rags and a site written by someone who is unabashedly in the same camp as evidenced by his crowing about blogging at "The Left Coaster" and kissing the feet of Newsweek International's Editor.... the camp that the Zogby poll was part of the most Economics-ILLITERATE section of society. Let's have a look at the bio of the man the Webmaster of Eriposste worships: "Fareed Zakaria is editor of Newsweek International, a Newsweek and Washington Post columnist, weekly host for CNN, and a New York Times bestselling author." Newsweek... Washington Post... CNN... yeah, that's a really independent source. I also find it amusing that you chose to push foward with nothing but an Ad Hominem attack, going after WSJ when the actually data was provided by an internationally-recognized and respected polling firm. Now, how about trying again, this time doing something else than attempting to shoot the messenger?
From: brad herschel on 8 Jun 2010 21:03 On Jun 8, 8:30 pm, Polarhound <polarho...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > BryanUT wrote: > > On Jun 8, 5:20 pm, Polarhound <polarho...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > I don't mean to get personal here, but have you collected > > unemployment? Can you find a job at a wage that you are willing to > > accept? > > > That article is written in the WSJ, who owns the WSJ? Oh yeah Rupert > > Murdoch: > > > "Three months later, on August 1, 2007, News Corp. and Dow Jones > > entered into a definitive merger agreement.[22] The controversial US > > $5 billion sale added the Wall Street Journal to Rupert Murdoch's news > > empire, which already included Fox News Channel, financial network > > unit and London's The Times, and locally within New York, the New York > > Post, along with Fox flagship station WNYW (Channel 5) and MyNetworkTV > > flagship WWOR (Channel 9).[23]" > > > Let's just skip the survey and "economic theory" and get back the > > results: > > >http://www.slate.com/id/2199810/ > > >http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/magazine/27wwln-idealab-t.html > > I should also mention the more than slight amusement of the link > selection YOU gave, specifically two well known Left-Of-Lenin rags and a > site written by someone who is unabashedly in the same camp as evidenced > by his crowing about blogging at "The Left Coaster" and kissing the feet > of Newsweek International's Editor.... the camp that the Zogby poll was > part of the most Economics-ILLITERATE section of society. > > Let's have a look at the bio of the man the Webmaster of Eriposste worships: > > "Fareed Zakaria is editor of Newsweek International, a Newsweek and > Washington Post columnist, weekly host for CNN, and a New York Times > bestselling author." > > Newsweek... Washington Post... CNN... yeah, that's a really independent > source. > > I also find it amusing that you chose to push foward with nothing but an > Ad Hominem attack, going after WSJ when the actually data was provided > by an internationally-recognized and respected polling firm. > > Now, how about trying again, this time doing something else than > attempting to shoot the messenger?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Social workers, schoolmarms, and other usual suspects types, when you try to converse with them you will be amazed at their shallowness coupled with ignorance! brad
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