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From: Nige on 12 Dec 2008 20:10 Bear wrote: > In article <YBB0l.117895$wc2.112394(a)en-nntp-01.am2.easynews.com>, Catman > says... >> ginge wrote: >>> On 10 Dec 2008 16:17:21 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Colin Irvine wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10 Dec 2008 15:59:30 GMT, Lozzo squeezed out the following: >>>>>> I've never actually seen the film, but I know where the quotes come >>>>>> from >>>>> I've seen it several times - and plan to again. >>>> The only Tarantino Films I've seen have been the Kill Bill ones, and I >>>> loved them. I ought to make time to watch a few more. >>> >>> Pulp Fiction and From Dusk 'til Dawn both get my vote as all time >>> classics. >>> >> Dusk til Dawn is the only Tarantino film I like. > > He's a fairly awful film-maker with a wonderful ability for self- > publicity. > > I simply can't believe the number of otherwise bright people who got > caught in the glare of the Emperor's New Clothes that was Pulp Fiction - > an average movie at best. > > Dusk Til Dawn is ok ... sort of ... a bit. > > But, on average, his output is predictable, hackneyed and relies on the > PR effort to sell it, which he is admittedly absolutely superb at. He didn't direct Dusk -- Nige, Range Rover Td6 Vogue BMW K1200S Suzuki GSX-R1000 K3 BMW F800GS
From: Bear on 12 Dec 2008 20:11 In article <ff26k4t6vliopbi0im8g1l8ibc5lcqdca6(a)4ax.com>, Colin Irvine says... > On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:35:55 -0000, Bear squeezed out the following: > > <of Tarantino> > > >He's a fairly awful film-maker with a wonderful ability for self- > >publicity. > > > >I simply can't believe the number of otherwise bright people who got > >caught in the glare of the Emperor's New Clothes that was Pulp Fiction - > >an average movie at best. > > And I can't believe how an otherwise intelligent person can miss all > that is excellent about PF. So there :-p) > > Oh, and if you reply to this and I ignore you, it's 'cos we're off to > Cervinia in the morning to play in the snow for a week - and there's > lots of it! Enjoy. -- 2002 Yamaha R1 Saab Aero Sport
From: Bear on 12 Dec 2008 20:12 In article <6qggbdFchfekU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Nige says... > Bear wrote: > > In article <YBB0l.117895$wc2.112394(a)en-nntp-01.am2.easynews.com>, Catman > > says... > >> ginge wrote: > >>> On 10 Dec 2008 16:17:21 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Colin Irvine wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 10 Dec 2008 15:59:30 GMT, Lozzo squeezed out the following: > >>>>>> I've never actually seen the film, but I know where the quotes come > >>>>>> from > >>>>> I've seen it several times - and plan to again. > >>>> The only Tarantino Films I've seen have been the Kill Bill ones, and I > >>>> loved them. I ought to make time to watch a few more. > >>> > >>> Pulp Fiction and From Dusk 'til Dawn both get my vote as all time > >>> classics. > >>> > >> Dusk til Dawn is the only Tarantino film I like. > > > > He's a fairly awful film-maker with a wonderful ability for self- > > publicity. > > > > I simply can't believe the number of otherwise bright people who got > > caught in the glare of the Emperor's New Clothes that was Pulp Fiction - > > an average movie at best. > > > > Dusk Til Dawn is ok ... sort of ... a bit. > > > > But, on average, his output is predictable, hackneyed and relies on the > > PR effort to sell it, which he is admittedly absolutely superb at. > > He didn't direct Dusk No, but he wrote it (screenplay), starred in it, and got someone he knew to direct it. -- 2002 Yamaha R1 Saab Aero Sport
From: Catman on 13 Dec 2008 02:21 Nige wrote: > Bear wrote: >> In article <YBB0l.117895$wc2.112394(a)en-nntp-01.am2.easynews.com>, Catman >> says... >>> ginge wrote: >>>> On 10 Dec 2008 16:17:21 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Colin Irvine wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 10 Dec 2008 15:59:30 GMT, Lozzo squeezed out the following: >>>>>>> I've never actually seen the film, but I know where the quotes come >>>>>>> from >>>>>> I've seen it several times - and plan to again. >>>>> The only Tarantino Films I've seen have been the Kill Bill ones, and I >>>>> loved them. I ought to make time to watch a few more. >>>> Pulp Fiction and From Dusk 'til Dawn both get my vote as all time >>>> classics. >>>> >>> Dusk til Dawn is the only Tarantino film I like. >> He's a fairly awful film-maker with a wonderful ability for self- >> publicity. >> >> I simply can't believe the number of otherwise bright people who got >> caught in the glare of the Emperor's New Clothes that was Pulp Fiction - >> an average movie at best. >> >> Dusk Til Dawn is ok ... sort of ... a bit. >> >> But, on average, his output is predictable, hackneyed and relies on the >> PR effort to sell it, which he is admittedly absolutely superb at. > > He didn't direct Dusk > Which is why I like it :) He's quite good *in* it. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: Champ on 13 Dec 2008 04:27
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:35:55 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Pulp Fiction and From Dusk 'til Dawn both get my vote as all time >> > classics. >> > >> Dusk til Dawn is the only Tarantino film I like. It's my least favourite. >He's a fairly awful film-maker with a wonderful ability for self- >publicity. Or possibly you're touting opinion as fact. >I simply can't believe the number of otherwise bright people who got >caught in the glare of the Emperor's New Clothes that was Pulp Fiction - >an average movie at best. Have you any idea how foolish you look when you pontificate like this. Since when were you Bear bloody Norman? >But, on average, his output is predictable, hackneyed and relies on the >PR effort to sell it, which he is admittedly absolutely superb at. His first film, Resevoir Dogs, had no publicity money. It was made on $1.5 million, which is buttons for a feature film. Pulp Fiction only had a budget of $8.5 million, and it's first opening was at Cannes, where it won the Palm D'Or - after that, it didn't *need* a PR effort. His latter films have had full PR launches, generally to average reviews, but the first two, which made his reputation were a) genuinely innovative and critically acclaimed, and b) didn't have a big PR effort. hth. -- Champ What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken) neal at champ dot org dot uk |