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From: JD on 13 Aug 2010 12:55 On 8/13/2010 9:19 AM, brad herschel wrote: > Did a bunch of research re: the situation in Milwaukee. Apparently the > Harley jobs were highly > coveted. That $22.50 per hour is apparently a good number. They also > enjoy fine benefits. But unless Harley > and the unions can agree on wage adjustments Harley will have to move. > Much talk about Kentucky. > Hate to see an American institution move out of the country. > It's way too easy to blame the unions. Back in '70's the typical CEO made 10X the average employee wage. Now that number is 100X and more. Since '70 and Reagan's trashing of the air traffic controller's union, collective bargaining has declined so you can't really blame today's economic problems on them but the case for pointing the finger at corporate greed is pretty strong. Capitalism works when the money keeps moving and that means making sure that the wage earners make enough to spend in a diverse selection of products and services. Having 90% of the GDP controlled by 5% of the population isn't doing any of us any good.
From: Twibil on 13 Aug 2010 14:52 On Aug 13, 9:55 am, JD <jdblackwe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > It's way too easy to blame the unions. Back in > '70's the typical CEO made 10X the average > employee wage. Now that number is 100X and more. > Since '70 and Reagan's trashing of the air traffic > controller's union, collective bargaining has > declined so you can't really blame today's > economic problems on them but the case for > pointing the finger at corporate greed is pretty > strong. Capitalism works when the money keeps > moving and that means making sure that the wage > earners make enough to spend in a diverse > selection of products and services. Having 90% of > the GDP controlled by 5% of the population isn't > doing any of us any good. OW! My head! Too many big words, and higher math as well! Can't breath! Must...must....reach my television...........turn on......(pant).....Glenn Beck.........(click) AHHHHHHHHHHHH! Cool, blessed, mindless relief! UNIONS ARE BAD! YOU'RE A COMMIE! GO BACK TO KENYA WHERE YOU CAME FROM!
From: kickstart on 13 Aug 2010 15:30 > But unless Harley > and the unions can agree on wage adjustments Harley will have to move. > Much talk about Kentucky. > Hate to see an American institution move out of the country. geography 101 Kentucky ain't outta the country
From: Vito on 13 Aug 2010 15:42 <.p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: | | >Why must they move or go under? | | Unions. Yup! If it weren't for unions Americans would be working for the same wages, and living like Mexican or Chinese peasants and we wouldn't be having these problems .... Notice why history teachings always stop at the civil war.
From: Vito on 13 Aug 2010 15:46
"JD" <jdblackwell2(a)gmail.com> wrote | | It's way too easy to blame the unions. Back in | '70's the typical CEO made 10X the average | employee wage. Now that number is 100X and more. ... Yes, and back in the 70's that was partly justified by the graduated income tax. To give a guy in the 90% bracket a $1 raise you had to pay him $10 more. Now that tax curve has been changed but the gap has widened, not shrank as it should. |