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From: S'mee on 23 Apr 2010 14:38
On Apr 22, 9:28 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 1:07 pm, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 2:48 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 23, 12:09 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 22, 7:55 am, Jim Sumner <JimSummer...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 22, 7:44 am, tooly <rd...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Apr 19, 9:11 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 20, 6:52 am, climber <coledenk...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n3p22_Degrelle.html
>
> > > > > > > > Interesting piece by former Belgium SS volunteer leader.
>
> > > > > > > > climber
>
> > > > > > > ""Hitler -- You knew him -- what was he like?"
>
> > > > > > > I have been asked that question a thousand times since 1945, and
> > > > > > > nothing is more difficult to answer."
>
> > > > > > > The difficulty arises from looking into the space and ignoring the
> > > > > > > complementary negative space. The enigma can not be resolved without
> > > > > > > the context. Many a mathematical theorem can only be proven by
> > > > > > > negative logic.
>
> > > > > > > Hitler was mostly irrelevant as a person. Another loser could have
> > > > > > > done just as well. What made him were the circumstances and his
> > > > > > > sponsors.
>
> > > > > > I look at MLK in the same way.  I remember he was just another tinhorn
> > > > > > bible thumper with black pomposity and rhetoric.  But like Hitler, he
> > > > > > became ICONIC at a specific point in time and place...of circumstances
> > > > > > that were larger than he was.  Probably any black orator of the day
> > > > > > would have done.  Of course, MLK will go down in history as a major
> > > > > > focal point in world change.
>
> > > > > > Makes one wonder about history and our champions as we have learned of
> > > > > > them.  JFK...now I think perhaps he had greatness in him.  Reagan was
> > > > > > not what I'd call a 'great man', but he had an amazing 'stabalizing'
> > > > > > character about him; one rested easy at night with him in charge...and
> > > > > > the world prospered.
>
> > > > > > As I've read, I think Ben Franklin was truly a great man.  His real
> > > > > > notoriety came through science before his diplomatic skills of the
> > > > > > day.  The guy was talented to the hilt. Europe was taken with him as
> > > > > > he was an exceptional man.
>
> > > > > > Alexander Hamilton also impresses me in history.
>
> > > > > > Some others who were given greatness status but, as I see it, were
> > > > > > probably more in the right place at the right time was Abraham Lincoln
> > > > > > and Thomas Jefferson [not to say their achievements weren't great, but
> > > > > > as 'great men' and leaders of their time that affected the rest of the
> > > > > > world...I dunno].
>
> > > > > > Was Ghandi a great man?  Perhaps he was.
>
> > > > > > It is hard to pinpoint what makes any man GREAT.  It is a quality we
> > > > > > recognize though when we see it in person [or not].  I read somewhere
> > > > > > Hitler did command a certain fanatical loyalty in his closest
> > > > > > associates.  Is that true?
>
> > > > > > Was Lenin a great man?  The more I read about him, he seems like he
> > > > > > was a conniver...a kind of weasle with power.  Stalin was mad I think
> > > > > > and a bully...a simple murderer; hardly great.
>
> > > > > > Perhaps the Greatest man who ever lived [as I've read history
> > > > > > anyway]...appears could have been Alexander The Great.
>
> > > > >   Without the media to praise him MLK would have been deemed a trouble-
> > > > > maker. The other thing about these categorizations of leaders as being
> > > > > great, good, bad, etc. is that most of it is after the fact based on
> > > > > whether they won or lost. Germans are the biggest phonies of all, the
> > > > > really hate Hitler because he lost the war, they actually don't care
> > > > > about human atrocities committed during his regime, they are angry
> > > > > that he caused them to get bombed and to die on battlefields in an
> > > > > ultimately lost war. Lenin and Stalin are hated for not bringing
> > > > > Russians the material prosperity equal to that found in the west.
>
> > > > Really? Gee, then I must have talked to the delusional muscovites much
> > > > less the nice german emigree' who baked bread at our school when I was
> > > > a kid...they would have called your assertation ridiculous and told
> > > > you that you were talking to old school stalinists or nazi's. <nods
> > > > sadly> them ain't human people, they are sick.
>
> > > .
> > > .
> > > Demonisation is a favorite propaganda instrument of the corrupt ruling
> > > classes. Balance is the key to understanding. Don't be scared, even
> > > you can understand the negative space.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Your delusions of granduer and adequecy truly know no bounds...nor
> > does your stupidity and ignorance.
>
> You are projecting.

Yep you just proved me correct with that statement...let us see how
much deeper you can dig yourself into the hole you've dug.

> I refer to rigorously tested methods. You refer to your animal
> instincts. Here are two examples;

heh I refer to reality...it trumps testing.

> "them ain't human people, they are sick"
> "the delusional muscovites"

adn THEN you actualy LIE by changing a post...keep digging francis.

> Learn to write a paragraph properly according to grammar, before you
> discharge your emotions and disgrace yourself publicly.

I'm sorry you seem to keep digging and digging and digging. Not only
that you erroniously assume that I am a english speaker. I am most
assuredly NOT. I speak american a similar but VERY different
language...it's even written differently.
From: S'mee on 23 Apr 2010 14:40
On Apr 23, 1:17 am, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 4:59 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 22, 8:28 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Learn to write a paragraph properly according to grammar, before you
> > > discharge your emotions and disgrace yourself publicly.
>
> > And speaking of being a disgrace...
>
> >http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grammarian.htm
>
> You got me. I apologize.
>
> The discharge of excessive emotions stands.

heh and you aren't even smart enough to take for granted that, that
was an entirely disspassionate resonse. In the cold light of reality
YOU are at the bottom of a very deep hole in the ground whilst I, I am
heading off to my job. Above ground in the light of day and without a
felonious crime to worry me...none that can ever be proven.
From: S'mee on 22 Apr 2010 23:07
On Apr 22, 2:48 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 12:09 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 7:55 am, Jim Sumner <JimSummer...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 22, 7:44 am, tooly <rd...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 19, 9:11 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 20, 6:52 am, climber <coledenk...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n3p22_Degrelle.html
>
> > > > > > Interesting piece by former Belgium SS volunteer leader.
>
> > > > > > climber
>
> > > > > ""Hitler -- You knew him -- what was he like?"
>
> > > > > I have been asked that question a thousand times since 1945, and
> > > > > nothing is more difficult to answer."
>
> > > > > The difficulty arises from looking into the space and ignoring the
> > > > > complementary negative space. The enigma can not be resolved without
> > > > > the context. Many a mathematical theorem can only be proven by
> > > > > negative logic.
>
> > > > > Hitler was mostly irrelevant as a person. Another loser could have
> > > > > done just as well. What made him were the circumstances and his
> > > > > sponsors.
>
> > > > I look at MLK in the same way.  I remember he was just another tinhorn
> > > > bible thumper with black pomposity and rhetoric.  But like Hitler, he
> > > > became ICONIC at a specific point in time and place...of circumstances
> > > > that were larger than he was.  Probably any black orator of the day
> > > > would have done.  Of course, MLK will go down in history as a major
> > > > focal point in world change.
>
> > > > Makes one wonder about history and our champions as we have learned of
> > > > them.  JFK...now I think perhaps he had greatness in him.  Reagan was
> > > > not what I'd call a 'great man', but he had an amazing 'stabalizing'
> > > > character about him; one rested easy at night with him in charge...and
> > > > the world prospered.
>
> > > > As I've read, I think Ben Franklin was truly a great man.  His real
> > > > notoriety came through science before his diplomatic skills of the
> > > > day.  The guy was talented to the hilt. Europe was taken with him as
> > > > he was an exceptional man.
>
> > > > Alexander Hamilton also impresses me in history.
>
> > > > Some others who were given greatness status but, as I see it, were
> > > > probably more in the right place at the right time was Abraham Lincoln
> > > > and Thomas Jefferson [not to say their achievements weren't great, but
> > > > as 'great men' and leaders of their time that affected the rest of the
> > > > world...I dunno].
>
> > > > Was Ghandi a great man?  Perhaps he was.
>
> > > > It is hard to pinpoint what makes any man GREAT.  It is a quality we
> > > > recognize though when we see it in person [or not].  I read somewhere
> > > > Hitler did command a certain fanatical loyalty in his closest
> > > > associates.  Is that true?
>
> > > > Was Lenin a great man?  The more I read about him, he seems like he
> > > > was a conniver...a kind of weasle with power.  Stalin was mad I think
> > > > and a bully...a simple murderer; hardly great.
>
> > > > Perhaps the Greatest man who ever lived [as I've read history
> > > > anyway]...appears could have been Alexander The Great.
>
> > >   Without the media to praise him MLK would have been deemed a trouble-
> > > maker. The other thing about these categorizations of leaders as being
> > > great, good, bad, etc. is that most of it is after the fact based on
> > > whether they won or lost. Germans are the biggest phonies of all, the
> > > really hate Hitler because he lost the war, they actually don't care
> > > about human atrocities committed during his regime, they are angry
> > > that he caused them to get bombed and to die on battlefields in an
> > > ultimately lost war. Lenin and Stalin are hated for not bringing
> > > Russians the material prosperity equal to that found in the west.
>
> > Really? Gee, then I must have talked to the delusional muscovites much
> > less the nice german emigree' who baked bread at our school when I was
> > a kid...they would have called your assertation ridiculous and told
> > you that you were talking to old school stalinists or nazi's. <nods
> > sadly> them ain't human people, they are sick.
>
> .
> .
> Demonisation is a favorite propaganda instrument of the corrupt ruling
> classes. Balance is the key to understanding. Don't be scared, even
> you can understand the negative space.- Hide quoted text -


Your delusions of granduer and adequecy truly know no bounds...nor
does your stupidity and ignorance.
From: Akira Bergman on 22 Apr 2010 23:28
On Apr 23, 1:07 pm, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 2:48 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 23, 12:09 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 22, 7:55 am, Jim Sumner <JimSummer...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 22, 7:44 am, tooly <rd...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 19, 9:11 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Apr 20, 6:52 am, climber <coledenk...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n3p22_Degrelle.html
>
> > > > > > > Interesting piece by former Belgium SS volunteer leader.
>
> > > > > > > climber
>
> > > > > > ""Hitler -- You knew him -- what was he like?"
>
> > > > > > I have been asked that question a thousand times since 1945, and
> > > > > > nothing is more difficult to answer."
>
> > > > > > The difficulty arises from looking into the space and ignoring the
> > > > > > complementary negative space. The enigma can not be resolved without
> > > > > > the context. Many a mathematical theorem can only be proven by
> > > > > > negative logic.
>
> > > > > > Hitler was mostly irrelevant as a person. Another loser could have
> > > > > > done just as well. What made him were the circumstances and his
> > > > > > sponsors.
>
> > > > > I look at MLK in the same way.  I remember he was just another tinhorn
> > > > > bible thumper with black pomposity and rhetoric.  But like Hitler, he
> > > > > became ICONIC at a specific point in time and place...of circumstances
> > > > > that were larger than he was.  Probably any black orator of the day
> > > > > would have done.  Of course, MLK will go down in history as a major
> > > > > focal point in world change.
>
> > > > > Makes one wonder about history and our champions as we have learned of
> > > > > them.  JFK...now I think perhaps he had greatness in him.  Reagan was
> > > > > not what I'd call a 'great man', but he had an amazing 'stabalizing'
> > > > > character about him; one rested easy at night with him in charge....and
> > > > > the world prospered.
>
> > > > > As I've read, I think Ben Franklin was truly a great man.  His real
> > > > > notoriety came through science before his diplomatic skills of the
> > > > > day.  The guy was talented to the hilt. Europe was taken with him as
> > > > > he was an exceptional man.
>
> > > > > Alexander Hamilton also impresses me in history.
>
> > > > > Some others who were given greatness status but, as I see it, were
> > > > > probably more in the right place at the right time was Abraham Lincoln
> > > > > and Thomas Jefferson [not to say their achievements weren't great, but
> > > > > as 'great men' and leaders of their time that affected the rest of the
> > > > > world...I dunno].
>
> > > > > Was Ghandi a great man?  Perhaps he was.
>
> > > > > It is hard to pinpoint what makes any man GREAT.  It is a quality we
> > > > > recognize though when we see it in person [or not].  I read somewhere
> > > > > Hitler did command a certain fanatical loyalty in his closest
> > > > > associates.  Is that true?
>
> > > > > Was Lenin a great man?  The more I read about him, he seems like he
> > > > > was a conniver...a kind of weasle with power.  Stalin was mad I think
> > > > > and a bully...a simple murderer; hardly great.
>
> > > > > Perhaps the Greatest man who ever lived [as I've read history
> > > > > anyway]...appears could have been Alexander The Great.
>
> > > >   Without the media to praise him MLK would have been deemed a trouble-
> > > > maker. The other thing about these categorizations of leaders as being
> > > > great, good, bad, etc. is that most of it is after the fact based on
> > > > whether they won or lost. Germans are the biggest phonies of all, the
> > > > really hate Hitler because he lost the war, they actually don't care
> > > > about human atrocities committed during his regime, they are angry
> > > > that he caused them to get bombed and to die on battlefields in an
> > > > ultimately lost war. Lenin and Stalin are hated for not bringing
> > > > Russians the material prosperity equal to that found in the west.
>
> > > Really? Gee, then I must have talked to the delusional muscovites much
> > > less the nice german emigree' who baked bread at our school when I was
> > > a kid...they would have called your assertation ridiculous and told
> > > you that you were talking to old school stalinists or nazi's. <nods
> > > sadly> them ain't human people, they are sick.
>
> > .
> > .
> > Demonisation is a favorite propaganda instrument of the corrupt ruling
> > classes. Balance is the key to understanding. Don't be scared, even
> > you can understand the negative space.- Hide quoted text -
>
> Your delusions of granduer and adequecy truly know no bounds...nor
> does your stupidity and ignorance.

You are projecting.

I refer to rigorously tested methods. You refer to your animal
instincts. Here are two examples;

"them ain't human people, they are sick"
"the delusional muscovites"

Learn to write a paragraph properly according to grammar, before you
discharge your emotions and disgrace yourself publicly.
From: Twibil on 23 Apr 2010 02:59
On Apr 22, 8:28 pm, Akira Bergman <akiraberg...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Learn to write a paragraph properly according to grammar, before you
> discharge your emotions and disgrace yourself publicly.

And speaking of being a disgrace...

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grammarian.htm
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