From: des hanging around for a while on 13 Apr 2010 13:40 On 2010-04-13, DozynSleepy <nospamplease(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > On 13/04/2010 15:13, steve auvache wrote: > snip >> >> Just be careful what you say, plod are obliged to be professionally >> neutral in these matters and as my dear old dead mate Budgie used to >> say, "you are only ever guilty by your own admission." >> >> > > American biased but surprising relevant to our own society. > > "Why I am proud to admit that I will never talk to any police officer" > by Professor James Duane > > Always worth posting a link again. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865# > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6014022229458915912# Maybe worth posting, but in the main, completely useless to Britons. You don't have the right to silence, you don't have protection against arbitrary search, seizure or arrest. In short, British people have no rights that cannot be removed by decree, 'D notice' or organic law.
From: Charlie on 13 Apr 2010 13:46 On 13/04/2010 18:11, boots wrote: > Whilst I agree with you Kenneth Noy got away with killing a copper in > his garden, charged but found not guilty. Yes, but that was <checks> 27 years ago, and was regarded as a perverse finding by the jury. It was a stabbing, and not a 'distance' shooting. Noye's story was that he was grappling with an unidentified intruder in night-time camouflage who had attacked him. In that case the self-defense plea worked. It is, of course, out of the question that the jury was nobbled, given Noye's charming and lily-white character. A pound to a penny says that shooting someone in your garden, these days, would land you in a heap of legal trouble, and it would never be simply nodded through as a justifiable response to an invasion.
From: 'Hog on 13 Apr 2010 13:51 Charlie wrote: > On 13/04/2010 18:11, boots wrote: > >> Whilst I agree with you Kenneth Noy got away with killing a copper in >> his garden, charged but found not guilty. > > Yes, but that was <checks> 27 years ago, and was regarded as a > perverse finding by the jury. It was a stabbing, and not a > 'distance' shooting. Noye's story was that he was grappling with an > unidentified intruder in night-time camouflage who had attacked him. In > that case the self-defense plea worked. It is, of course, out of > the question that the jury was nobbled, given Noye's charming and > lily-white character. > A pound to a penny says that shooting someone in your garden, these > days, would land you in a heap of legal trouble, and it would never be > simply nodded through as a justifiable response to an invasion. As the Martin case proved. -- Hog
From: Andy Bonwick on 13 Apr 2010 13:58 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:10:14 +0000 (UTC), "Krusty" <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >Steve wrote: > >> On 13 Apr, 00:57, "steve robinson" <st...(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >> > The little fucker decided to give in on the garage door and jump the >> > gate instead into the back garden and head towards the open back >> > door , by the time i got downstairs it was to late my two �german >> > shepherds had already �soughted him . > >Excellent. > That's a slightly different attitude to the one you took when someones dog had a cat for dinner.
From: 'Hog on 13 Apr 2010 14:29
Andy Bonwick wrote: > My view on dogs that attack people is that they should be shot and the > owner charged for the bullet. This may seem a bit harsh but the money > the owner saves on dog food will soon pay for the bullets. So there should be no such thing as a guard dog in the world? I don't much like dogs, I don't understand why general ownership is ok, I'd restrict them to working roles, but not at all? -- Hog |