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From: Stephen Cowell on 9 Oct 2009 22:44

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous(a)example.invalid> wrote in message
news:hanl9a$huj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>>>>> Does your Dnepr
>>>>
>>>> Read the manual? In Italian?
>>>
>>> ????????????? ????????????. :-) [ <- was Cyrillic text ]
>>
>> Well, then... you obviously didn't download the manual from
>> the link that was presented... did you?
>
> No, sorry I didn't. I also don't see that you presented a link to an
> Italian version (or any language) of the Dnepr manual. No manual link
> elsewhere in the thread that I see either.

The Saga Is Ongoing...

> Oh, there was a smiley there ...

Not on purpose!

http://www.carlsalter.com/download.asp?fileid=068078069080082032111119110101114115095109097110117097108046122105112

See if that works... you must navigate a Captcha as well. The other two
manuals
on the site are in German, or one in multiple languages. The above should
take
you to a really crappy copy of the owner's manual, in Italian.
__
Steve
..


From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 9 Oct 2009 23:04
Stephen Cowell wrote:

> See if that works... you must navigate a Captcha as well. The other
> two manuals on the site are in German, or one in multiple languages.
> The above should take you to a really crappy copy of the owner's
> manual, in Italian.

Thanks, but I'll leave that for SQ, as I neither have a Dnepr nor speak
or read Italian.

But shouldn't a Dnepr owner be *required* to read Russian? ;-)

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
From: Bruce Richmond on 9 Oct 2009 23:51
On Oct 9, 6:23 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 7:01 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> >> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> >>> On Oct 8, 5:26 pm, "Stephen Cowell"
> >>> <stephenleeNOSPAMcow...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>                                           I've got a buddy
> >>>> that *had* to have Mobil1 installed before he took delivery...
> >>>> his bike puffs white smoke when he gets on it, still, after
> >>>> three years.
>
> >>> Good point. I suppose "new Dnepr" isn't really an
> >>> oxymoron after all. I don't particularly believe synthetic
> >>> damages seals though.
>
> >> Not so much damages as they don't respond the same way.
>
> >>                        one of the objectives in formulating
> >> different motor oils is to produce the same degree of swelling in
> >> common seal materials. If an oddball material is used then going to
> >> a synthetic lubricant might swell it more or less than it is
> >> supposed to resulting in either a too tight or too loose seal.
>
> > Common explanation seems to be early synthetics may have
> > had problems but current generation don't.
>
> >http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4213451.html
>
> Look, my point was not that synthetics cause seal problems, my point was
> that this is a Dnepr, a Russian bike that uses Russian seals which may be
> made of materials that the people who make oil never thought to test.   I'm
> not saying that they ARE made of such materials, just that one should be
> aware of the VERY REMOTE possibility that they are.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> As for rings not seating right, depends on the oil and the design of
> >> the engine--some exotic cars come with synthetic these days.
>
> > I recall going through at least one grade of lighter oil
> > followed by one oil change of dino before going to synthetic.
> > On an air cooled engine though, I wouldn't run anything else
> > and yeah right from the factory on some not so exotic newer
> > engines too I think.
>
> >> If the guy's bike puffs _white_ smoke when he starts it, that's
> >> coolant, not oil, and he should find out why it's happening rather
> >> than assuming that
> >> it's because synthetic oil prevented the rings from seating.
>
> > Common advice I've heard for new rings is "ride it like you
> > stole it".
>
> > I'd probably try synthetic on a Dnepr myself. Works fine on my
> > fairly similar '80s era BMW airhead.
>
> Personally I would and if started to leak then I'd go back to dinosaur blood
> and see if it stopped leaking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My 1972 R75/5 BMW weeped around gaskets when I switched to full
synthetic. Silicone gaskets cured the problem.

http://www.rockypointcycle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RPC&Category_Code=B10

Where the Dnepr isn't really an old bike it might not have the same
problem.
From: Sean_Q_ on 10 Oct 2009 03:47
Thanks for the help, everyone. It's going to be 2 degrees C tomorrow
morning as a cold front moves in, so I'll try out some of
the suggestions.

Southern Manitoba already has snow. If we don't hear from Bob Mann soon,
someone send a search party. (Winnipeg will be easy to find -- it'll be
that big bump in the snow).

SQ
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