From: ogden on
Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> No, not a "which one" thread. More of a "when?" thread.
>
> Look, this is a little embarrassing...
>
> OK, modern front tyres don't have a whole hell of a lot of tread to
> begin with. And I have real trouble deciding what's legal, and what's
> not when they get worn.
>
> My front tyres tend to "feather" in that the individual tread blocks
> wear on the leading corner, so I end up with a tyre that looks pretty
> worn and pretty new at the same time.
>
> So how do you judge when it needs changing?

I tend to have mine replaced as a set, and the rear always wears out
first. I know I could save a few quid by stringing the front along a bit
longer but it hardly seems worth the effort.

--
ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250

From: ogden on
doetnietcomputeren wrote:
> On 2010-04-09 22:34:29 +0200, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> said:
>
> > No, not a "which one" thread. More of a "when?" thread.
> >
> > Look, this is a little embarrassing...
> >
> > OK, modern front tyres don't have a whole hell of a lot of tread to
> > begin with. And I have real trouble deciding what's legal, and what's
> > not when they get worn.
> >
> > My front tyres tend to "feather" in that the individual tread blocks
> > wear on the leading corner, so I end up with a tyre that looks pretty
> > worn and pretty new at the same time.
> >
> > So how do you judge when it needs changing?
>
> As I understand it, only the part of the tyre that has a wear indicator
> is measurable.[1]

You understand wrong.

It has to be within limits for a continuous unbroken area covering 3/4
(I think) of the width of the tyre. That is to say it can't be within
wear limits for the 1/4 nearest the edge on one side and the whole of
the other side, but it can be fucked for the quarter nearest the edge on
one side.

--
ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250

From: Ace on
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:54:10 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp-spambin(a)ytc1.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:52:32 +0200, Ace wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:34:29 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>> <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:

>>>So how do you judge when it needs changing?
>>
>> Same as it ever was - if there's still some rubber covering the canvas
>> there's still some life left.
>
>Canvas !
>
>Pah !

Yebbut, these days they're all tubeless, innit?

From: doetnietcomputeren on
On 2010-04-09 23:05:55 +0200, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> said:

> doetnietcomputeren wrote:
>> On 2010-04-09 22:34:29 +0200, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>> <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> said:
>>
>>> No, not a "which one" thread. More of a "when?" thread.
>>>
>>> Look, this is a little embarrassing...
>>>
>>> OK, modern front tyres don't have a whole hell of a lot of tread to
>>> begin with. And I have real trouble deciding what's legal, and what's
>>> not when they get worn.
>>>
>>> My front tyres tend to "feather" in that the individual tread blocks
>>> wear on the leading corner, so I end up with a tyre that looks pretty
>>> worn and pretty new at the same time.
>>>
>>> So how do you judge when it needs changing?
>>
>> As I understand it, only the part of the tyre that has a wear indicator
>> is measurable.[1]
>
> You understand wrong.

really?

>
> It has to be within limits for a continuous unbroken area covering 3/4
> (I think) of the width of the tyre. That is to say it can't be within
> wear limits for the 1/4 nearest the edge on one side and the whole of
> the other side, but it can be fucked for the quarter nearest the edge on
> one side.

So tell me how that works on this:

http://www.ziemasriepas.lv/images/upload/MichelinPilotSportCup/large_Michelin_SPORT_CUP.jpg

given

that there is no measurable tread on the outer 1/3rd of the tyre when new.

--
Dnc

From: Andy Bonwick on
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 22:01:52 +0100, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote:

>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>> No, not a "which one" thread. More of a "when?" thread.
>>
>> Look, this is a little embarrassing...
>>
>> OK, modern front tyres don't have a whole hell of a lot of tread to
>> begin with. And I have real trouble deciding what's legal, and what's
>> not when they get worn.
>>
>> My front tyres tend to "feather" in that the individual tread blocks
>> wear on the leading corner, so I end up with a tyre that looks pretty
>> worn and pretty new at the same time.
>>
>> So how do you judge when it needs changing?
>
>I tend to have mine replaced as a set, and the rear always wears out
>first. I know I could save a few quid by stringing the front along a bit
>longer but it hardly seems worth the effort.

This ties in with the way I work it. A front will last maybe 50%
longer than a rear tyre but if the front is fucked when the rear is
still good you tend to ignore it until both need replacing. Not a good
idea.