From: Andy Bonwick on
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:25:44 +0100, Nige <ni(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

>On 09/04/2010 22:19, Andy Bonwick wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 22:01:52 +0100, ogden<ogden(a)pre.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>>>> No, not a "which one" thread. More of a "when?" thread.
>>>>
>>>> Look, this is a little embarrassing...
>>>>
>>>> OK, modern front tyres don't have a whole hell of a lot of tread to
>>>> begin with. And I have real trouble deciding what's legal, and what's
>>>> not when they get worn.
>>>>
>>>> My front tyres tend to "feather" in that the individual tread blocks
>>>> wear on the leading corner, so I end up with a tyre that looks pretty
>>>> worn and pretty new at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> So how do you judge when it needs changing?
>>>
>>> I tend to have mine replaced as a set, and the rear always wears out
>>> first. I know I could save a few quid by stringing the front along a bit
>>> longer but it hardly seems worth the effort.
>>
>> This ties in with the way I work it. A front will last maybe 50%
>> longer than a rear tyre but if the front is fucked when the rear is
>> still good you tend to ignore it until both need replacing. Not a good
>> idea.
>>
>
>I got 6k out of a front with 3 rears :)

I hope you're very happy.
From: ogden on
doetnietcomputeren wrote:
> On 2010-04-09 23:29:26 +0200, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> said:
>
> > But since you're now talking about car tyres,
>
> I already was, but I hadn't realised that WUN wasn't, IYSWIM.>

> > the grounds for failure
> > for a car include:
> >
> > "The grooves of the tread pattern are not at least 1.6mm throughout a
> > continuous band comprising 1) the central three-quarters of the breadth
> > of tread, and 2) round the entire outer circumference of the tyre.
> > Note: Each side of the central band of the tyre can be devoid of tread
> > (ie. ?bald?) and still meet the pass standard although in practice such
> > tyre wear is unlikely to occur. See diagram below"
>
> So, my point that, the outer edge can be near as bald as it gets

If you ignore "and 2) round the entire outer circumference of the tyre",
sure

> , as
> long as the actual tread pattern (which is the bit with wear
> indicators), was about right then.

Sounds pretty scientific to me.

--
ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250

From: Thomas on
On Apr 9, 1:34 pm, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>
wrote:
> No, not a "which one" thread. More of a "when?" thread.
>
> Look, this is a little embarrassing...
>
> OK, modern front tyres don't have a whole hell of a lot of tread to
> begin with. And I have real trouble deciding what's legal, and what's
> not when they get worn.
>
> My front tyres tend to "feather" in that the individual tread blocks
> wear on the leading corner, so I end up with a tyre that looks pretty
> worn and pretty new at the same time.

Called "cupping" around here. Some is normal, but low tire pressure
exacerbates it.

> So how do you judge when it needs changing?

I could care less what's legal. I change tires when I don't feel safe
on them. Or when I'm traveling and know it'll be a while before I can
get a new tire. If there is any part of the tire where the tread has
disappeared, it's time to change, but I usually ride past where the
wear bars say. I was very surprised once to see a tire had worn to the
cords in one area, but had plenty of tread on the rest of the tire. I
spin tires all the way round now when checking.


From: Lozzo on
ogden wrote:


> I tend to have mine replaced as a set, and the rear always wears out
> first. I know I could save a few quid by stringing the front along a
> bit longer but it hardly seems worth the effort.

I tend to sell the bike before it needs tyres and buy something
different

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
From: Ace on
On 9 Apr 2010 23:34:56 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

>ogden wrote:
>
>
>> I tend to have mine replaced as a set, and the rear always wears out
>> first. I know I could save a few quid by stringing the front along a
>> bit longer but it hardly seems worth the effort.
>
>I tend to sell the bike before it needs tyres and buy something
>different

Nige? Is that you?