From: Robert Bolton on
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:01:57 -0800 (PST), El Guerrero del Interfaz
<el.guerrero.del.interfaz(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 2, 1:48�pm, "Snag" <snag_...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> > � �Beers on me. Even Belgian ones and in meatspace if you drive by
>> > here :-)
>>
>> > � �Well, the title says it all. I'm doubting between these 2 bikes.
>> > I've never had one of either although I got a Sportster a few bikes
>> > ago. Now I ride a BMW R1150RT solo and a 1500 Goldwing with an H chard
>> > side. The reason of the change is that the Beemer is not comfortable
>> > enough for my wife. That was also the reason why we bought the GW with
>> > side second-hand but, after several �rides, she says that she prefers
>> > to be behind me than in a side.
>>
My wife has expressed interest in a sidecar, but we've yet to try one.
What was it about the sidecar your wife didn't like?

>> > � �I fairly well know what to expect from the Harley but the Victory
>> > is unknown to me. It sure looked extremely interesting but, until a
>> > few months ago, it was not even imported in Spain. So I not only need
>> > to know about the bike but also about the brand, its reliability,
>> > service, etc. I've already searched the group but the results
>> > "Victory" give are not related to the bikes, the brand or even biking.
>> > I've also visited the rec.motorcycles.victory group but there's little
>> > activity.
>>
>> > � �And I've already considered and discarded other touring options
>> > like another BMW, Honda, Kawa, Yamaha, Triumph and so on.
>>
>> > � �Thanks and bye.
>>
>> > --
>> > El Guerrero del Interfaz
>>
>> You're lots more likely to find service and parts for the Harley - no matter
>> where in the world you ride .
>
> I'm sure you're right. That's definitively a big advantage that the
>Harley has. And that's the reason why my wife, who's the one who
>handles the money, prefers the Harley.
>
Perhaps the best bike for you is Harley, as she will be more likely to
approve of it. My wife loves our Electra Glide Classic, but is
attracted to the Victory's looks. She's 5 ft tall. The wife probably
needs to be a thin person with the Glides though, as there is not much
room between the tourpac and the rider, at least on our 1997. Perhaps
the newer ones provide more space.

> But what I don't know and would like to know is whether the Victory
>service, however scarce, is any good compared to HD. And also about
>the bike reliability. When I bought the Sportster, I was actually
>quite wary about its reliability due to the legend. But at the end it
>was as reliable as a Beemer or similar. So I would like to hear about
>Victory from users.
>
There was a thread on the Victory in rec.motorcycles some months
back. Perhaps you can find it. There may have been a link in one of
the posts that led to a motorcycle magazine comparison of the two.

Congrats on your future purchase.
Robert
From: El Guerrero del Interfaz on
On Mar 3, 7:28 am, "Native" <averag...(a)live.com> wrote:

>    Hi,
>
>    Beers on me. Even Belgian ones and in meatspace if you drive by
> here :-)
>
> Thanks for the drink...
>
>    <snipped>
>
> The reason of the change is that the Beemer is not comfortable
> enough for my wife. That was also the reason why we bought the GW with
> side second-hand but, after several  rides, she says that she prefers
> to be behind me than in a side.
>
>   <snipped>
>
>     Have you considered removing the hack and riding 2 up on the Wing?

Yes because she likes much better the ride behind than in the side.
But it's not possible. I bought the rig second-hand and it has an
Earles fork and car wheels and tyres. If I removed the sidecar, it
would be unusable. Good idea tough :-)
>
>    Thanks and bye.
>
> Right back atchya...
>

Thanks and good ride.


--
El Guerrero del Interfaz
From: Snag on
Robert Bolton wrote:

> Perhaps the best bike for you is Harley, as she will be more likely to
> approve of it. My wife loves our Electra Glide Classic, but is
> attracted to the Victory's looks. She's 5 ft tall. The wife probably
> needs to be a thin person with the Glides though, as there is not much
> room between the tourpac and the rider, at least on our 1997. Perhaps
> the newer ones provide more space.

> Robert

It's a fairly simple job to relocate the tour pak a couple of inches back
.. Just mark and drill the mounting holes closer to the front of the box .
Mine was done before I bought it , originally puzzled me why there were two
sets of holes . I did the same on my '76 FLH (RIP Bag Lady ...) so it would
mount with an aftermarket seat .

--
Snag
"90 FLHTCU "Strider"
'39 WLDD "PopCycle"
BS 132/SENS/DOF


From: Sean_Q_ on
Mark Olson wrote:

>> ...Queen Isabella's coronation
>> coach drawn by a team of white Lipizzaner horses.
>
> She won't like that- the horses are far too jumpy.

Maybe so, but their cornering is awesome.

SQ
From: El Guerrero del Interfaz on
On Mar 3, 8:21 am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote:

>
> >> >    Beers on me. Even Belgian ones and in meatspace if you drive by
> >> > here :-)
>
> >> >    Well, the title says it all. I'm doubting between these 2 bikes.
> >> > I've never had one of either although I got a Sportster a few bikes
> >> > ago. Now I ride a BMW R1150RT solo and a 1500 Goldwing with an H chard
> >> > side. The reason of the change is that the Beemer is not comfortable
> >> > enough for my wife. That was also the reason why we bought the GW with
> >> > side second-hand but, after several  rides, she says that she prefers
> >> > to be behind me than in a side.
>
> My wife has expressed interest in a sidecar, but we've yet to try one.
> What was it about the sidecar your wife didn't like?
>
That she cannot pinch me ;-)

Seriously it's more or less that: she feels too far away from me,
cannot communicate easily and does not like the low position close to
cars and trucks. She also thinks that it's hotter than the bike,
especially at low speeds as it does not have air conditioning and I
live in Andalusia where we reach 50C in the summer.

The sidecar itself is quite good. It's an Héchard (http://
www.hechard-sidecars.com/) two seater and it's fairly comfy with good
suspension, braking, big trunk and auxiliary gas tank. It's fitted
with an harness and roll bar for security. I actually like it quite a
bit as sidecar driving is very "Zen" and the GW engine is ideal for
that kind of vehicle.

If you want to buy one, first try one and learn to drive it first.
It's not a bit like a bike or a car. I bought my first one, a Squire,
in England with a rendez-vous without having driven one ever and went
back to Spain with it fitted to a Guzzi Le Mans with bracelets. The
first miles were a nightmare and I thought I would never make it to
France, much less to Spain. Only when I entered the highway. I had to
speed up because everybody was honking and found out that it was
easier to drive at cruise speeds than slowly. Don't do that. I did it
because I was young and stupid, even more than now...

But with the time you learn to like the monster. It's like heavy
metal, a learned habit. But it feels quite good :-)

> [snip]

And thanks for all the information.


Goodbye and good ride.


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