From: Thomas on
On Apr 28, 1:17 pm, davethedave <davedfos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:30:10 +0100, Salad Dodger wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <keens...(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>On Apr 26, 8:07 am, Salad Dodger <salad.dod...(a)idnet.com> wrote:
> >>> When you need to do a pair of jobs, that one is piddlingly easy, and
> >>> the other impossible.
>
> >>Sometimes you can blame an engineer.

> > Pah. You're preaching to the choir on Honda's complexity for simple
> > jobs.
>
> Why do Honda do it? Why? They all seemed to be designed to cause you maximum grief.

I think it's about dealer service. Honda wants you to take the machine
to a factory service rep for all maintenance. Then they can charge you
an arm and a leg to do the slightest work.

From: The Older Gentleman on
Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> I think

Not really, no.


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From: turby on
On Apr 28, 11:04 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> Thomas <keens...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think
>
> Not really, no.

Yes, really.

From: Grimly Curmudgeon on
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> saying
something like:

>> Why do Honda do it? Why? They all seemed to be designed to cause you maximum grief.
>
>I think it's about dealer service. Honda wants you to take the machine
>to a factory service rep for all maintenance. Then they can charge you
>an arm and a leg to do the slightest work.

Not unknown as a motivation, but sometimes it can simply be a culture of
over-complexity in the design stage as people try to keep their jobs by
appearing busy. Such doodles often end up on the production line -
Citroen underbonnet was a classic example, as were Japanese wiring
looms.
From: Pip on
Salad Dodger wrote:

> "Front brake pads not tested" on the yellow slip.
>
> Can't see them without taking off the disc covers, and you're not
> allowed to dismantle the bike while testing.
>
> This is its eleventh MOT (fifth from the same place) and the first
> time it's been noted.
>
> They did test the brakes, though.

Well, yeah, I was gunna say, like. "Not examined" should have been the
phrase. I realise that they're constrained to a comapratively narrow
choice of preset phrases these days, but you'd think that 'examined'
would be in there.

Well done on the green sheet, thoughbut.

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