From: Krusty on
Lozzo wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
>
> > ...can't everyone put 17mm hex head lumps on the end of their oil
> > filters like wot K&N do? It makes life so much more civilised.
>
> Don't go thinking K+N filters are really good either, they are made by
> Hi-flo, just with a different casing. ITYF Suzuki ones are about the
> same money as K+N, and I know what I'd rather fit, even if you do need
> a special tool to remove it.

Hi-Flo are very good. I spent yonks researching filters as MV ones are
stupidly expensive. Pure One are probably the best but hard to come by
over here.

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Krusty
From: Lozzo on
Krusty wrote:

> Lozzo wrote:
>
> > Krusty wrote:
> >
> > > ...can't everyone put 17mm hex head lumps on the end of their oil
> > > filters like wot K&N do? It makes life so much more civilised.
> >
> > Don't go thinking K+N filters are really good either, they are made
> > by Hi-flo, just with a different casing. ITYF Suzuki ones are about
> > the same money as K+N, and I know what I'd rather fit, even if you
> > do need a special tool to remove it.
>
> Hi-Flo are very good. I spent yonks researching filters as MV ones are
> stupidly expensive. Pure One are probably the best but hard to come by
> over here.

I read an automotive engineers report on filters that showed them to be
inferior to OE, but I'd be interested to see other people's findings.
We sell Hi-flo at work and I've used plenty of them in the past with no
problems, but given a choice of OE or Hi-flo I'd take OE every time.
The price difference isn't great, a common or garden Kawasaki fitment
Hi-flo filter is 7 quid, Genuine is another quid on top. Other
manufacturer's OE filters are all priced around the same.

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Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
From: Krusty on
Lozzo wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
>
> > Lozzo wrote:
> >
> > > Krusty wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...can't everyone put 17mm hex head lumps on the end of their
> > > > oil filters like wot K&N do? It makes life so much more
> > > > civilised.
> > >
> > > Don't go thinking K+N filters are really good either, they are
> > > made by Hi-flo, just with a different casing. ITYF Suzuki ones
> > > are about the same money as K+N, and I know what I'd rather fit,
> > > even if you do need a special tool to remove it.
> >
> > Hi-Flo are very good. I spent yonks researching filters as MV ones
> > are stupidly expensive. Pure One are probably the best but hard to
> > come by over here.
>
> I read an automotive engineers report on filters that showed them to
> be inferior to OE, but I'd be interested to see other people's
> findings.

Depends on the manufacturer. There was a study in a foreign mag
recently (Swedish I think) where the Toyota OE filter came last for
filtration. And the original MV filters, made by Champion, didn't even
have a drainback valve. Chances are it was the same with other
Champion-made OE filters. Yet Champion badged filters are one of the
better ones.

> We sell Hi-flo at work and I've used plenty of them in the
> past with no problems, but given a choice of OE or Hi-flo I'd take OE
> every time. The price difference isn't great, a common or garden
> Kawasaki fitment Hi-flo filter is 7 quid, Genuine is another quid on
> top. Other manufacturer's OE filters are all priced around the same.

I use whichever's most convenient out of OE, K&N/Hi-Flo, Champion or
Bosch.

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Krusty
From: sweller on
Krusty wrote:

> I use whichever's most convenient out of OE, K&N/Hi-Flo, Champion or
> Bosch.

Local Motor Factors seem to stock Mahle for everything, Jaguar
specialists dish out Crossflow.

Not sure if they're any good mind...

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Simon
From: Krusty on
sweller wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
>
> > I use whichever's most convenient out of OE, K&N/Hi-Flo, Champion or
> > Bosch.
>
> Local Motor Factors seem to stock Mahle for everything, Jaguar
> specialists dish out Crossflow.
>
> Not sure if they're any good mind...

Mahle are supposed to be very good. No idea about Crossflow.

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Krusty