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From: crn on 21 Jun 2010 09:16 Krusty <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: > Beav wrote: > > "Krusty" <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message > > news:hvn920$agq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > ...can't everyone put 17mm hex head lumps on the end of their oil > > > filters like wot K&N do? It makes life so much more civilised. > > > > Coz if they did, Snap-On wouldn't have been able to sell me a > > spiffing adjustable and (so far) totally unbeaten filter clampy thing. > > Is it one of those things with 3 legs that move closer together as you > turn the central nut? If so, it won't work on MVs or 955 Tigers. My chain wrench has never failed so far. Just a loop of chain and a socket to fit a half inch drive. Loop over the filter, apply force and the chain tightens onto the filter. Available from most decent motor accessory shops. Appropriate half inch extension bars etc required for awkward spaces. OTOH someone will pop up and claim that they can crush a really tight one but if its that tight you are fucked anyway. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project 78 Honda 400/4 in black 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)
From: Krusty on 21 Jun 2010 09:20 crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote: > Krusty <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: > > Beav wrote: > > > "Krusty" <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote in message > > > news:hvn920$agq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > ...can't everyone put 17mm hex head lumps on the end of their > > > > oil filters like wot K&N do? It makes life so much more > > > > civilised. > > > > > > Coz if they did, Snap-On wouldn't have been able to sell me a > > > spiffing adjustable and (so far) totally unbeaten filter clampy > > > thing. > > > > Is it one of those things with 3 legs that move closer together as > > you turn the central nut? If so, it won't work on MVs or 955 Tigers. > > My chain wrench has never failed so far. Just a loop of chain and a > socket to fit a half inch drive. Loop over the filter, apply force > and the chain tightens onto the filter. Available from most decent > motor accessory shops. Got one of them too, & again, it won't work on an MV or 955, & you wouldn't want to use it for tightening a filter. -- Krusty
From: Pete Fisher on 21 Jun 2010 09:55 In communiqu� <hvnfgu$33m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Krusty <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> cast forth these pearls of wisdom >Lozzo wrote: > >> Krusty wrote: >> >> > Lozzo wrote: >> > >> > > Krusty wrote: >> > > >> > > > ...can't everyone put 17mm hex head lumps on the end of their >> > > > oil filters like wot K&N do? It makes life so much more >> > > > civilised. >> > > >> > > Don't go thinking K+N filters are really good either, they are >> > > made by Hi-flo, just with a different casing. ITYF Suzuki ones >> > > are about the same money as K+N, and I know what I'd rather fit, >> > > even if you do need a special tool to remove it. >> > >> > Hi-Flo are very good. I spent yonks researching filters as MV ones >> > are stupidly expensive. Pure One are probably the best but hard to >> > come by over here. >> >> I read an automotive engineers report on filters that showed them to >> be inferior to OE, but I'd be interested to see other people's >> findings. > >Depends on the manufacturer. There was a study in a foreign mag >recently (Swedish I think) where the Toyota OE filter came last for >filtration. And the original MV filters, made by Champion, didn't even >have a drainback valve. Chances are it was the same with other >Champion-made OE filters. Yet Champion badged filters are one of the >better ones. > I've just changed the filter on the MX5 this morning. The one I put on last was a Champion which has done 3000 miles and about 12 months. I was going to change it when I put Mobil 1 in it about 1000 miles ago, but I gave up trying to get it off as ICBA to crawl underneath as I had to the last time and I just couldn't shift it. The Mobil 1 made a marked difference to the hydraulic tappet noise on cold starts, but lately I had been noticing a very slight delay before the oil pressure gauge popped up to normal with a bit of noise. Not exactly 'cranky', but slightly concerning (engine has done 111,000). Today, perhaps because I did it on a cold engine but a hot day (no danger of burning myself, but not a bit of expansion to help) it succumbed to the left hand that you can just a bout get a grip of it with from under the bonnet. I've fitted a 'Mazda' filter, and the gauge flicks up instantly now. Given the right-angled mounting of the filter I'm wondering if it was a drain back valve issue. Problem is that I can't remember now if it was OK when first fitted, just that I have been noticing it recently. OK, so it is a very small filter and I see now that the recommended interval is, like the oil, 3000 miles or 3 months. Given modern synthetic oil like Mobil 1, and the mileage I do (when it is taken, out it is well and truly warmed up), I'm inclined to risk leaving the oil in for 12 months. Do filters 'age'? -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk | | Voxan Roadster Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: Colin Irvine on 21 Jun 2010 09:56 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:49:04 +0000 (UTC), Krusty squeezed out the following: >...can't everyone put 17mm hex head lumps on the end of their oil >filters like wot K&N do? It makes life so much more civilised. I've got a 1/2 in drive Draper Oil Filter Strap Wrench. Works a treat. -- Colin Irvine ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
From: Eiron on 21 Jun 2010 10:34
On 21/06/2010 14:55, Pete Fisher wrote: Do filters 'age'? The one I removed from a BMW 323 recently did. Obviously not been changed for years as it was brittle and fell apart when I removed the cover. -- Eiron. Alazzurra (1985) GSXR1100L (1990) XL883L (2008) |