From: Nige on
Rob wrote:
> On 04/04/2010 17:28, GungaDan wrote:

>
> I've just done a CBT extra thing (can't remember exact name, free in
> Derbyshire) and I can't accept your 'natural' argument, and I suspect a
> good number of accidents/deaths could be avoided by the rider. Just a
> ton of stuff I learnt that would never have occurred to me.
>
> But if you've got evidence that such nanny statism runs counter to your
> facts, please tell.

For fucks sake.


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From: GungaDan on
On Apr 6, 9:15 am, Rob <patchoulianREM...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/04/2010 17:28, GungaDan wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 2:48 pm, "Vass"<write2m...(a)hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >> "wessie"<putmynameh...(a)tesco.net>  wrote in message
>
> >>news:Xns9D5095A001FE8wtymmmsas(a)188.40.43.245...
>
> >>> to New North Wales
>
> >>> As Brunstrom fucks off and the new regime seems to be relaxing their
> >>> discrimination against motorcyclists...
>
> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8602464.stm
>
> >> "Motorcyclists account for just 1% of the traffic on the UK's roads, but
> >> almost 19% of all deaths on them"
> >> sort of brings it home a bit don't it.
>
> > Not really, no.
>
> > <rant>

<snip>
> > I wish the police, government,media and assorted do-gooders would
> > accept the fact that biking is by its nature more dangerous than
> > driving a car, accept the fact that *we* accept that it's more
> > dangerous and let us carry on killing ourselves at the current rate.
> > </rant>
>
> I've just done a CBT extra thing (can't remember exact name, free in
> Derbyshire) and I can't accept your 'natural' argument, and I suspect a
> good number of accidents/deaths could be avoided by the rider. Just a
> ton of stuff I learnt that would never have occurred to me.

My 'natural' argument? I never used the word so I guess you're
referring to the bit where I say 'biking is by its nature more
dangerous than driving a car'. If you don't or can't accept that I
wish you lots of luck in your future biking career.

> But if you've got evidence that such nanny statism runs counter to your
> facts, please tell.

I've got nothing against additional training so long as it's optional
but even with all the training in the world the death/serious injury
figures for bikers will never reach parity with car drivers. Which was
my point.
From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Catman
<catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> typed
>stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote:
>> Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just done a CBT extra thing (can't remember exact name, free in
>>>Derbyshire) and I can't accept your 'natural' argument, and I suspect
>>>a
>>> good number of accidents/deaths could be avoided by the rider. Just a
>>> ton of stuff I learnt that would never have occurred to me.
>> And exactly how many years/miles have you been riding bikes for?
>
>
>Oooh, well. If he's done CBT *plus* it must be several months, by now,
>I would think.

I'm sure we can all learn something from his experience.

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From: stephen.packer on
Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:

> stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote:
> > Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I've just done a CBT extra thing (can't remember exact name, free in
> >> Derbyshire) and I can't accept your 'natural' argument, and I suspect a
> >> good number of accidents/deaths could be avoided by the rider. Just a
> >> ton of stuff I learnt that would never have occurred to me.
> >
> > And exactly how many years/miles have you been riding bikes for?
>
>
> Oooh, well. If he's done CBT *plus* it must be several months, by now, I
> would think.

Thank you Mr Murray...
From: Catman on
Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Catman
> <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> typed
>> stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote:
>>> Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've just done a CBT extra thing (can't remember exact name, free in
>>>> Derbyshire) and I can't accept your 'natural' argument, and I suspect a
>>>> good number of accidents/deaths could be avoided by the rider. Just a
>>>> ton of stuff I learnt that would never have occurred to me.
>>> And exactly how many years/miles have you been riding bikes for?
>>
>>
>> Oooh, well. If he's done CBT *plus* it must be several months, by now,
>> I would think.
>
> I'm sure we can all learn something from his experience.
>

Well I'm sure *I* can ;)

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