From: Catman on
stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote:
> Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com wrote:
>>> Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've just done a CBT extra thing (can't remember exact name, free in
>>>> Derbyshire) and I can't accept your 'natural' argument, and I suspect a
>>>> good number of accidents/deaths could be avoided by the rider. Just a
>>>> ton of stuff I learnt that would never have occurred to me.
>>> And exactly how many years/miles have you been riding bikes for?
>>
>> Oooh, well. If he's done CBT *plus* it must be several months, by now, I
>> would think.
>
> Thank you Mr Murray...


Ooops, sorry, I forgot this </sarcasm>

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From: Beav on

"Pip" <gingerbloke(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0gsii7ni1f1tv00j(a)news.individual.net...
> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie
>> <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> typed
>> > to New North Wales
>> >
>> > As Brunstrom fucks off and the new regime seems to be relaxing their
>> > discrimination against motorcyclists...
>> >
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8602464.stm
>>
>> I am in correspondence with the idiot Barry Sheerman, MP on the
>> matter.
>
> While you're at it, ask the BBC why they're talking bollocks again. In
> that clip, the Police Team intercept a guy on a bike in a pub car park.
> The bike is apparently leaking fuel. The reporter says: "And once he's
> fixed it, he'll have to get a new MOT before he can use his bike on the
> road again".
>
> I hope she was talking bollocks, anyway.

She is. I wonder what she'd say if Plod told her the bike weighed 600
kilo's?

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From: Domenec on
On 6 abr, 08:57, "Pip" <gingerbl...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> So they stick some silly signs up and shove some more road furniture in
> places most likely to decapitate a sliding biker, and slap a shitload
> of slippery paint right in the middle of a braking zone

Do you use this sortf of pedestrian crossing in the UK?

http://www2.diariomotor.com/imagenes/paso-cebra-nuevo-disenho.jpg

Works great, no issues for pedestrians. The pic is from Barcelona,
dunnou whether they are used elsewhere.
From: Colin Irvine on
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:52:25 -0700 (PDT), Domenec squeezed out the
following:

>On 6 abr, 08:57, "Pip" <gingerbl...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So they stick some silly signs up and shove some more road furniture in
>> places most likely to decapitate a sliding biker, and slap a shitload
>> of slippery paint right in the middle of a braking zone
>
>Do you use this sortf of pedestrian crossing in the UK?
>
>http://www2.diariomotor.com/imagenes/paso-cebra-nuevo-disenho.jpg
>
>Works great, no issues for pedestrians. The pic is from Barcelona,
>dunnou whether they are used elsewhere.

If that's a traffic light in the top left corner then yes, it looks
similar to our Pelican crossings.

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From: Rob on
On 06/04/2010 10:42, GungaDan wrote:
> On Apr 6, 9:15 am, Rob<patchoulianREM...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 04/04/2010 17:28, GungaDan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2:48 pm, "Vass"<write2m...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "wessie"<putmynameh...(a)tesco.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>> news:Xns9D5095A001FE8wtymmmsas(a)188.40.43.245...
>>
>>>>> to New North Wales
>>
>>>>> As Brunstrom fucks off and the new regime seems to be relaxing their
>>>>> discrimination against motorcyclists...
>>
>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8602464.stm
>>
>>>> "Motorcyclists account for just 1% of the traffic on the UK's roads, but
>>>> almost 19% of all deaths on them"
>>>> sort of brings it home a bit don't it.
>>
>>> Not really, no.
>>
>>> <rant>
>
> <snip>
>>> I wish the police, government,media and assorted do-gooders would
>>> accept the fact that biking is by its nature more dangerous than
>>> driving a car, accept the fact that *we* accept that it's more
>>> dangerous and let us carry on killing ourselves at the current rate.
>>> </rant>
>>
>> I've just done a CBT extra thing (can't remember exact name, free in
>> Derbyshire) and I can't accept your 'natural' argument, and I suspect a
>> good number of accidents/deaths could be avoided by the rider. Just a
>> ton of stuff I learnt that would never have occurred to me.
>
> My 'natural' argument? I never used the word so I guess you're
> referring to the bit where I say 'biking is by its nature more
> dangerous than driving a car'. If you don't or can't accept that I
> wish you lots of luck in your future biking career.
>

By nature? Biking is not 'by nature' more dangerous than anything that I
can think of. Depends how you define 'biking' and any other stuff. A
pissed poor driver is far more likely to crash and die (and take a few
with them) than a good biker. If we have to differ, we just have to.

>> But if you've got evidence that such nanny statism runs counter to your
>> facts, please tell.
>
> I've got nothing against additional training so long as it's optional
> but even with all the training in the world the death/serious injury
> figures for bikers will never reach parity with car drivers. Which was
> my point.

No, yes, that's a good point, and anybody would be daft to suggest
otherwise.

The training was optional, but part of my point was it was free. I'd
never have bothered if it wasn't. And the other part of my point was
that I learnt a great deal, and I do believe I'm less likely to crash
and die because of it. Nothing in nature about tthat. That's nurture.

Not saying you or anyone here would get anything iut of it, of course,
but I did.

Rob