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From: Alex Ferrier on 20 Oct 2009 12:00 Steve Fitzgerald wrote: > > Champ writes: >> >>...even if you're innocent >> >>http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842 >> >>"New regulations set to come into force later this month will see >>motorists forced to cough up court costs - even if they're found not >>guilty or acquitted of motoring offences." > > [Since launching the petition, it has gathered increasing support from > members of parliament. After spending an afternoon at the Houses of > Parliament with Shadow Minister for Access to Justice, Henry Bellingham > MP, he made the decision to call for a committee to be selected to pray > against the new cost recovery rules, with a statutory instrument to be > implemented at the end of October.] > > Is this some new way of lawmaking, just pray and it will all be alright? Pray tell, have you checked the dictionary definitions of the word? -- Alex BMW R1150GS MZ Saxon 301 DIAABTCOD#3 MSWF#4 UKRMFBC#6 Ibw#35 BOB#8 Windy's "little soldier"
From: Timo Geusch on 20 Oct 2009 12:23 Champ wrote: > ...even if you're innocent > > http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842 > > "New regulations set to come into force later this month will see > motorists forced to cough up court costs - even if they're found not > guilty or acquitted of motoring offences." That's OK, it's obvious that we're guilty as we wouldn't be driving if we weren't. And I'll bet you if someone gets hacked off enough with this to take it to a reasonably high court, the government will ignore any decision that isn't in their favour. I'm so glad that the British notion of fair play extends to all facets of life. -- Morini Corsaro 125 | XL250 Motosport | R1150RT | 3 1/2 Sport Laverda SF2 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar
From: Timo Geusch on 20 Oct 2009 13:10 boots wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:24:18 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Champ says: > > > ...even if you're innocent > > > > http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842 > > I look forward to this bunch of shysters being booted out in the next > year, I am not so sure there's a viable alternative mind. I've never been a fan of the "anything's better than this lot" approach to politics but I'm warming to the idea. Wasn't that what got them elected in the first place? -- Morini Corsaro 125 | XL250 Motosport | R1150RT | 3 1/2 Sport Laverda SF2 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar
From: The Older Gentleman on 20 Oct 2009 14:38 Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: > ...even if you're innocent > > http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842 > > "New regulations set to come into force later this month will see > motorists forced to cough up court costs - even if they're found not > guilty or acquitted of motoring offences." Signed and MP emailed and questioned. -- BMW K1100LT & K100RS Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER (currently Beaving) Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: GungaDan on 20 Oct 2009 15:51
On Oct 20, 7:42 pm, "Dave Emerson" <Dave_dot_Emer...(a)LineOne.net> wrote: > "Champ" <n...(a)champ.org.uk> wrote in message > > news:oelrd5hupkbg3906q4km2nfak1t2r4patn(a)4ax.com... > > > ...even if you're innocent > > >http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842 > > > "New regulations set to come into force later this month will see > > motorists forced to cough up court costs - even if they're found not > > guilty or acquitted of motoring offences." > > While I don't agree with the new legislation, I can see why it's been > proposed. > > Note that defendants found not guilty will not be required to pay the courts > costs or the Prosecutions (Police/CPS) costs, but they would not > (automatically) be able to claim back their own defence costs. > > Some very highly paid specialist motoring defence lawyers have made fortunes > by charging their clients "loads-a-money" to represent them and, having > out-manoeuvred the CPS, have had their huge bills paid by the court. > > Note that the court is always empowered to limit the amount they award > "toward costs" for the winning side. However this is normally only > excercised when the defendant is found guilty and there is a good reason not > to charge them all the prosecution costs; either due to personal > circumstances or if the costs were excessive due to factors outside of the > defendants control. > > So, while the new proposal is against the normal principle of "the loser > pays" it does not imply that a defendant found > innocent would have to pay any court costs, other than those they commited > to for their own representation. <deliberately unsnipped> So if you don't fancy going to prison for, say, speeding you better be loaded. Oh, well that's fair enough then. |