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From: Hog on 20 Oct 2009 22:10 boots wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:10:36 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Timo Geusch > says: > >> boots wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:24:18 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Champ >>> says: >>> >>>> ...even if you're innocent >>>> >>>> http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842 >>> >>> I look forward to this bunch of shysters being booted out in the >>> next year, I am not so sure there's a viable alternative mind. >> >> I've never been a fan of the "anything's better than this lot" >> approach to politics but I'm warming to the idea. > > AOL, I just expect that Dave and his cronies will disappoint sooner > rather than later and they're the only alternative likely to make it > to #10. > >> Wasn't that what got them elected in the first place? > > Yep and look what it got us People choose a pseudo socialist party and then complain when it ends up looking like a pale USSR. Quelle Surprise. How else was it going to pan out! Unfortunately the current crop of opposition hasn't exactly been forged in the "hellfires of opposition" so yes I think people will very quickly get even more demoralised with British and EU politics. It is rather sad. You could take 6 decent folk with common sense, sit them in a pub for an hour and write down just a couple of pages of change, which almost everyone would agree with, and make this a nice place to live again. But simple as it is it won't be happening. -- Hog
From: steve auvache on 20 Oct 2009 22:39 In article <hblqj7$np2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Hog <hogSPAM(a)freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes > >It is rather sad. You could take 6 decent folk with common sense, sit them >in a pub for an hour and write down just a couple of pages of change, which >almost everyone would agree with, and make this a nice place to live again. Are you suggesting that sensible policies for a better Britain can be arrived at in a pub debate? >But simple as it is it won't be happening. Of course not, everyone knows common sense is not the correct lubricant for the wheels of the gravy train. That would be like throwing sand in the bearings. -- steve auvache
From: steve auvache on 20 Oct 2009 22:45 In article <hblpun$ins$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Hog <hogSPAM(a)freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes >Colin Irvine wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:42:21 +0100, Dave Emerson squeezed out the >> following: > >>> Some very highly paid specialist motoring defence lawyers have made >>> fortunes by charging their clients "loads-a-money" to represent them >>> and, having out-manoeuvred the CPS, have had their huge bills paid >>> by the court. >> >> So the current system isn't ideal. I still think it's better than the >> new one proposed. > >Sir needs a nice Constitution and Bill of Rights to regulate a govmint. And an army of constitutional lawyers on piece work rates to protect it? No thanks, I will stick with common law and letting the legal eagles work to put our current breed of political masters in jail where they belong. -- steve auvache
From: Hog on 20 Oct 2009 23:31 steve auvache wrote: > In article <hblpun$ins$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Hog > <hogSPAM(a)freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes >> Colin Irvine wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:42:21 +0100, Dave Emerson squeezed out the >>> following: >> >>>> Some very highly paid specialist motoring defence lawyers have made >>>> fortunes by charging their clients "loads-a-money" to represent >>>> them and, having out-manoeuvred the CPS, have had their huge bills >>>> paid by the court. >>> >>> So the current system isn't ideal. I still think it's better than >>> the new one proposed. >> >> Sir needs a nice Constitution and Bill of Rights to regulate a >> govmint. > > And an army of constitutional lawyers on piece work rates to protect > it? No thanks, I will stick with common law and letting the legal > eagles work to put our current breed of political masters in jail > where they belong. Unfortunately your plan has failed catastrophically -- Hog
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 21 Oct 2009 01:36
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> saying something like: >...even if you're innocent > >http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20842 > >"New regulations set to come into force later this month will see >motorists forced to cough up court costs - even if they're found not >guilty or acquitted of motoring offences." Hmm... what else is going on that the Govt would like to see slip through quietly while this particular CD dangling on a string is distracting public attention? |