From: Henry on

Since the illegal, immoral, and unprovoked wars of terror that are
destroying our country were motivated by the government's absurd
9-11 fairy tale conspiracy, the 9-11 Truth movement and the Peace
movements should be inseparable. Well done, people....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiqPQdWvo4


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"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
Albert Einstein.

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
http://www.ae911truth.org

From: S'mee on
On Mar 30, 1:43 pm, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org> wrote:
>   Since the illegal, immoral, and unprovoked wars of terror that are
> destroying our country were motivated by the government's absurd
> 9-11 fairy tale conspiracy, the 9-11 Truth movement and the Peace
> movements should be inseparable. Well done, people....
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiqPQdWvo4
>
> --
>
>   "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
> Albert Einstein.
>
>    http://911research.wtc7.net
>    http://www.journalof911studies.com/
>    http://www.ae911truth.org

Replying to your own post with the exact same post? Sure sign a of a
fruitcake or a crack pot...judging by how you idiots liger adn stink
up the inter net I'll vote for the former.

Y'all are a buncha fruitcakes and fools.
From: Tim Crowley on
On Mar 30, 12:17 pm, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org> wrote:
>   Since the illegal, immoral, and unprovoked wars of terror that are
> destroying our country were motivated by the government's absurd
> 9-11 fairy tale conspiracy, the 9-11 Truth movement and the Peace
> movements should be inseparable. Well done, people.

Buahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

thanks for the laugh, k000ker. But yo umissed the memo- all the k00l
k000ks have moved on, birthers are in, truthers out.
From: Henry on
Tim Crowley wrote:

> Actually, it's best to point and laugh.

It is indeed, because that shows everyone (but other deluded nut
jobs)that mindless followers of the "official" cartoon conspiracy
theory are incapable of reading, thinking, addressing the hard evidence
and expert research, or defending their impossible fairy tale with
anything but childish drivel. Thanks for making my point... <chuckle>

Here are two very clear and fundamental examples proving that the
government's 9-11 cartoon conspiracy theory is physically impossible.
Also worth noting, is that virtually all followers of the
government's 9-11 conspiracy theory are pitifully and comically
incapable of addressing these facts in a rational, coherent manner.
They certainly know how to spew the self deprecating grade school
kook drivel, though... <g>


Example #1:

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/75

TO: Dr. Shyam Sunder, National Institute of Standards and Technology

Dear Dr. Sunder,

We have heard you state publicly after the WTC 7 press conference that
it "would not be productive" for you to meet with the Architects &
Engineers for 9/11 Truth. This is quite disappointing ? as we now have
over 700 architects and engineers at AE911Truth calling for a real
investigation into the destruction of the three World Trade Center
high-rises on 9/11. At what point will you take us seriously? Perhaps
when our rapidly growing numbers reach 1,000 A/E's?

Here are our talking points:

1. The NIST November 2008 Final WTC 7 Investigative Report has many
fatal flaws:

a. NIST was forced to acknowledge the free-fall collapse of Building 7
for 100 feet of its 6.5 second fall only after being grilled publicly by
experts who are petition signers of AE911Truth. Yet you do not
acknowledge the obvious implications of such free-fall collapse ? that
the structure had to have been removed ? forcibly ? by explosives.
(Anyone knows that a building cannot collapse at the rate of a freely
falling object while simultaneously crushing 40,000 tons of structural
steel ? because all of its gravitational potential energy has been
converted to motion.)


Example #2.


http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/ChandlerDownwardAccelerationOfWTC1.pdf

Summary

"The fact that the roof line of the upper section of the
North Tower continued to accelerate downward through the
collision with the lower section of the building indicates
that the upper section could not have been acting as a pile
driver. As long as the roof line was accelerating downward,
the upper block, exerted a force less than its own static
weight on the lower section of the building. Any accretion
of material into the upper block would have acted as an
inertial brake, reducing the force of interaction even further.
The undamaged lower section of the building was built to
support several times the weight of the material above it,
but whether or not we take the safety factor into account,
the reduced force exerted by the falling mass could not have
been what caused the violent destruction of the building seen
in numerous videos. The persistent acceleration of the top
section of the building is strong confirmation that some other
source of energy was used to remove the structure below it,
allowing the upper block to fall with little resistance.
Having assumed the existence of an indestructible falling
block, with or without accretion, we have demonstrated that,
given the observed acceleration, such a block could not
possibly have destroyed the lower section of the building.
When we turn to the video evidence we see that even the
hypothesized existence of a persistent upper block is a
fiction. Videos show that the section of the building above
the plane impact point was the first section to disintegrate.
It was significantly reduced in size prior to the onset of
destruction of the lower section of the building. Once the
roof line descends into the debris cloud there is no further
evidence even of its continued existence. Whether or not it
was completely destroyed early in the collapse is a moot point.
We have shown that even if it continued to exist intact,
it could not have played a significant role in the destruction
of the building. A small section of a structure, consisting of
a few floors, cannot one-way crush-down a significantly larger
lower section of same structure by gravity alone."


"Explicitly invoking Newton's Third Law puts this result in another
light. Since the forces in the interaction are equal and opposite,
the falling block exerts a force of only 36% of its weight on the
lower section of the building. In other words, as long as the
falling block is accelerating downward we have the counter-intuitive
result that the force it exerts on the lower section of the building
is significantly less than its static weight."





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"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
Albert Einstein.

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
http://www.ae911truth.org


From: Henry on
S'mee wrote:

> True, true...BUT inspite of being a commie he isn't a bad buy, well no
> worse than the rest of reeky. <shrug> I care that the poor guy has
> bought into the bullshit that the kookers espouse.

Keith, how many times do I have to tell you that I *do not* believe
your insane magic fire/super Arab/cave man cartoon conspiracy theory
before it penetrates your thick skull?
In spite of the comical denials of you and a few other deluded
conspiracy kooks, the fundamental principles of physics still apply on
this planet. As always, here's hard proof that your conspiracy theory
is physically imposisble.


Proof that WTC7 dropped at the rate of free fall.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=206C1F5EDFC83824

This is the point you and other cartoon conspiracy kooks need to
read an understand.

"Anyone knows that a building cannot collapse at the rate of a freely
falling object while simultaneously crushing 40,000 tons of structural
steel because all of its gravitational potential energy has been
converted to motion."


Here is Richard Gage's letter to NIST.

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/75

TO: Dr. Shyam Sunder, National Institute of Standards and Technology

Dear Dr. Sunder,

We have heard you state publicly after the WTC 7 press conference that
it "would not be productive" for you to meet with the Architects &
Engineers for 9/11 Truth. This is quite disappointing ? as we now have
over 700 architects and engineers at AE911Truth calling for a real
investigation into the destruction of the three World Trade Center
high-rises on 9/11. At what point will you take us seriously? Perhaps
when our rapidly growing numbers reach 1,000 A/E's?

Here are our talking points:

1. The NIST November 2008 Final WTC 7 Investigative Report has many
fatal flaws:

a. NIST was forced to acknowledge the free-fall collapse of Building 7
for 100 feet of its 6.5 second fall only after being grilled publicly by
experts who are petition signers of AE911Truth. Yet you do not
acknowledge the obvious implications of such free-fall collapse ? that
the structure had to have been removed forcibly by explosives.
(Anyone knows that a building cannot collapse at the rate of a freely
falling object while simultaneously crushing 40,000 tons of structural
steel because all of its gravitational potential energy has been
converted to motion.)


More proof of demolition:


http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/ChandlerDownwardAccelerationOfWTC1.pdf

Summary

"The fact that the roof line of the upper section of the
North Tower continued to accelerate downward through the
collision with the lower section of the building indicates
that the upper section could not have been acting as a pile
driver. As long as the roof line was accelerating downward,
the upper block, exerted a force less than its own static
weight on the lower section of the building. Any accretion
of material into the upper block would have acted as an
inertial brake, reducing the force of interaction even further.
The undamaged lower section of the building was built to
support several times the weight of the material above it,
but whether or not we take the safety factor into account,
the reduced force exerted by the falling mass could not have
been what caused the violent destruction of the building seen
in numerous videos. The persistent acceleration of the top
section of the building is strong confirmation that some other
source of energy was used to remove the structure below it,
allowing the upper block to fall with little resistance.
Having assumed the existence of an indestructible falling
block, with or without accretion, we have demonstrated that,
given the observed acceleration, such a block could not
possibly have destroyed the lower section of the building.
When we turn to the video evidence we see that even the
hypothesized existence of a persistent upper block is a
fiction. Videos show that the section of the building above
the plane impact point was the first section to disintegrate.
It was significantly reduced in size prior to the onset of
destruction of the lower section of the building. Once the
roof line descends into the debris cloud there is no further
evidence even of its continued existence. Whether or not it
was completely destroyed early in the collapse is a moot point.
We have shown that even if it continued to exist intact,
it could not have played a significant role in the destruction
of the building. A small section of a structure, consisting of
a few floors, cannot one-way crush-down a significantly larger
lower section of same structure by gravity alone."


"Explicitly invoking Newton's Third Law puts this result in another
light. Since the forces in the interaction are equal and opposite,
the falling block exerts a force of only 36% of its weight on the
lower section of the building. In other words, as long as the
falling block is accelerating downward we have the counter-intuitive
result that the force it exerts on the lower section of the building
is significantly less than its static weight."





--



"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
Albert Einstein.

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
http://www.ae911truth.org