From: turby on
On Nov 27, 2:04 am, YTC#1 <b...(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I find that over planning can get tedious, try not to plan too much, but
> have ideas of what you would like to do.

Fer sure.

But I'm usually guilty of the other extreme. I've done several major
trips where I had no idea where I was going, how I was going to get
there, or what I would see when I did. Serendipity happens, as when I
chanced on the massive Rath Yatra festival in Puri, India, which is
where the word "juggernaut' originated, but I'd like to be a little
better prepared this time.
From: Twibil on
On Nov 28, 10:43 pm, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Must be something severly wrong with me...

Yes, we know!

> I've never ever really had
> a desire to go to France...now Spain otoh. Spain I could do.

Bull.
From: YTC#1 on
turby wrote:
> On Nov 28, 1:09 pm, YTC#1 <b...(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>> 'Hog wrote:
>>> So where is the next expedition to then Bruce?
>> Apart from the next UKRM French trip ?
>>
>> Something like this
>>
>> http://www.quikmaps.com/show/91656
>
> Nice.
>
> What's wrong with Honduras? Last I heard it wasn't _that_
> problematical.

A bit of a personal joke.

a) Every thing I read about it seems to point at shite boarder crossings
and it being a shite country

b) If you look at the map, its not exactly easy to bypass without a boat :-)

>
> As for the Darian Gap, a friend just shipped his bike from California
> to Peru because the cost of getting it across the Gap from Panama was
> so expensive.

Wuss !

He may as well just fly it to Santiago and go to TDF from there.



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From: The Older Gentleman on
YTC#1 <bdp(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:

> > As for the Darian Gap, a friend just shipped his bike from California
> > to Peru because the cost of getting it across the Gap from Panama was
> > so expensive.
>
> Wuss !
>
> He may as well just fly it to Santiago and go to TDF from there.

Heh. I think getting a road bike across the Darien Gap would be
interesting. Am I right in thinking there are basically no roads at all?


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From: Pip on
In article <1j9xymt.17z76q01sphzqtN%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk>, The
Older Gentleman says...

> Heh. I think getting a road bike across the Darien Gap would be
> interesting. Am I right in thinking there are basically no roads at all?

Where interesting = impossible. Apparently it consists of a combination
of marsh and swamp (!) and no, there's no road at all. It is wet, muddy
and you'd have to contend with all sorts of lurgies, indigenous peoples
and rebel terrorists. There isn't a road because it has already
swallowed several attempts, summing millions of dollars, the greenies
won't let 'em, the loacals don't want it - and it is a natural barrier
to the spread of foot and mouth accessing Central America.

The gap may only be ~60 miles in a straight line, but there's accounts
of well-organised, well-funded expeditions taking months and months to
travel 100 miles, cheating by using boats along rivers. The first
alleged crossing was by one John Blashford-Snell, explorer and
eccentric, who took several months to cross The Gap and used boats (and
the British Army) in any case. General Motors tried and failed, with a
bulldozer supporting, FFS.

Get Bonwick to take it on, is my advice. On a Rokon, with a time limit
of six weeks.

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