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From: Bill on 11 Feb 2007 10:35 >http://www.usvetdsp.com/feb07/eagle.htm The OP was sent for a friend with good intentions so this "don't take this personal" qualification goes double. Butt that site's seeming raison d'etre (pardon my French) is that "anti-war" equals "anti-American". It occurs to me that both sides in that particular argument think they are doing what is best for America. But one calling the other "unAmerican" is just plain unAmerican! (;-{)} Peace! MB (stepping in it already)
From: Schmoe on 11 Feb 2007 11:23 Bill wrote: >> http://www.usvetdsp.com/feb07/eagle.htm > > The OP was sent for a friend with good intentions so this "don't take > this personal" qualification goes double. Butt that site's seeming > raison d'etre (pardon my French) is that "anti-war" equals > "anti-American". > > It occurs to me that both sides in that particular argument think they > are doing what is best for America. But one calling the other > "unAmerican" is just plain unAmerican! (;-{)} I gotta agree with you on that. From the site: "The anti-war/anti-America group cannot be allowed to use the Vietnam Memorial Wall as a back-drop to their anti-America venom and stain the hallowed ground that virtually cries out with blood at the thought of this proposed desecration ... it must not happen," said veteran Bud Gross. ". All Americans are invited to support our effort, which is intended as a defender of hallowed ground and intended as a non-violent competition between those that would sell out America and those of us who support freedom and keeping the fight with the enemy on distant shores." " Since when is protesting anti-American? It's unfortunate that they quote this guy saying that if you protest the Iraqi war, you are selling out America. I completely understand their feeling that the protest shouldn't take place at the Memorial but they lose the arugment when propaganda is allowed to weaken the message. Stay on task, protect the Memorial simply because it should not be caught in a political media fight, not because it's unAmerican.
From: Coasty on 11 Feb 2007 11:30 "Schmoe" <s(a)s.net> wrote in message news:sqHzh.8$0O1.2(a)newsfe12.lga... > Bill wrote: >>> http://www.usvetdsp.com/feb07/eagle.htm >> >> The OP was sent for a friend with good intentions so this "don't take >> this personal" qualification goes double. Butt that site's seeming >> raison d'etre (pardon my French) is that "anti-war" equals >> "anti-American". >> >> It occurs to me that both sides in that particular argument think they >> are doing what is best for America. But one calling the other >> "unAmerican" is just plain unAmerican! (;-{)} > > I gotta agree with you on that. From the site: > > "The anti-war/anti-America group cannot be allowed to use the Vietnam > Memorial Wall as a back-drop to their anti-America venom and stain the > hallowed ground that virtually cries out with blood at the thought of this > proposed desecration ... it must not happen," said veteran Bud Gross. ". > All Americans are invited to support our effort, which is intended as a > defender of hallowed ground and intended as a non-violent competition > between those that would sell out America and those of us who support > freedom and keeping the fight with the enemy on distant shores." " > > Since when is protesting anti-American? It's unfortunate that they quote > this guy saying that if you protest the Iraqi war, you are selling out > America. I completely understand their feeling that the protest shouldn't > take place at the Memorial but they lose the arugment when propaganda is > allowed to weaken the message. Stay on task, protect the Memorial simply > because it should not be caught in a political media fight, not because > it's unAmerican. > Being against any war is one thing, but smearing or using those who had died serving for personal gain or even as a war protest is another and bullshit. Coasty
From: AH#104 on 11 Feb 2007 11:56 >> "The anti-war/anti-America group cannot be allowed to use the Vietnam >> Memorial Wall as a back-drop to their anti-America venom Schmoe sed: > Since when is protesting anti-American? Try reading the first paragraph as other nationalities which might be involved in this protest which might be anti-American. For instance, if there are French protester which are not only showing their position on the war, but also their position against the USA. Are they saying there are possibly 2 groups... or that the one group is combined into both? <shrug> Just another view of the same sentence. Not in any way supporting the sentence; just like to look with an open mind. The_rhetorical_ASSHOLE#104 Len
From: Schmoe on 11 Feb 2007 12:14
Coasty wrote: > "Schmoe" <s(a)s.net> wrote in message news:sqHzh.8$0O1.2(a)newsfe12.lga... >> Bill wrote: >>>> http://www.usvetdsp.com/feb07/eagle.htm >>> >>> The OP was sent for a friend with good intentions so this "don't >>> take this personal" qualification goes double. Butt that site's >>> seeming raison d'etre (pardon my French) is that "anti-war" equals >>> "anti-American". >>> >>> It occurs to me that both sides in that particular argument think >>> they are doing what is best for America. But one calling the other >>> "unAmerican" is just plain unAmerican! (;-{)} >> >> I gotta agree with you on that. From the site: >> >> "The anti-war/anti-America group cannot be allowed to use the Vietnam >> Memorial Wall as a back-drop to their anti-America venom and stain >> the hallowed ground that virtually cries out with blood at the >> thought of this proposed desecration ... it must not happen," said >> veteran Bud Gross. ". All Americans are invited to support our >> effort, which is intended as a defender of hallowed ground and >> intended as a non-violent competition between those that would sell >> out America and those of us who support freedom and keeping the >> fight with the enemy on distant shores." " Since when is protesting >> anti-American? It's unfortunate that they >> quote this guy saying that if you protest the Iraqi war, you are >> selling out America. I completely understand their feeling that the >> protest shouldn't take place at the Memorial but they lose the >> arugment when propaganda is allowed to weaken the message. Stay on >> task, protect the Memorial simply because it should not be caught in >> a political media fight, not because it's unAmerican. > Being against any war is one thing, but smearing or using those who > had died serving for personal gain or even as a war protest is > another and bullshit. I agree and said so. OT, I just read a terrific article about a Coast Guard rescue of a light aircraft being ferried from CA to Australia. Amazing stuff and story. Damn you guys are good!!! If you're interested, I'll scan it an post across the street. |