From: doetnietcomputeren on
On 2009-12-04 15:04:49 +0100, Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> said:

>> Stress is your response to the situation around you, if you're
>> stressed, you are the only one to blame.
>
> Complete bollocks. Unless you consider that one's desire to keep a job
> under difficult circumstances is your own fault.

Pressure and stress are not the same thing.

You have a choice, you make the choice. Perhaps if you are at the point
where your only option is to quit, or do domething that you really
don't want to do, you should have done something sooner - it's not like
these things are often completely out of the blue.

> Would being
> unemployed be less stressful? Well, maybe, but maybe not, eh?

Being unemployed isn't stressful. Allowing yourself to run out of money
and be unable to support yourself could be.


--
Dnc

From: Donnie on
Grimly Curmudgeon said:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Donnie" <NOTVALID(a)hotmail.com>
> saying something like:
>
> > Colin Irvine said:
> >
> >> On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:13:46 -0000, 'Hog squeezed out the following:
> >>
> >> > companies which think they can have rather obvious stuff
> >> > manufactured in China for �2-3 then sell them here for �90
> >> >
> >> >
> www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/583537/Workshop/Bike-Movers/Renntec?utm_
> >> > source=email&utm_medium=031209&utm_campaign=031209 >> >
> >> > They can FRO
> >> >
> >> > I have enough fingers and toes to count how many they are likely
> to >> > sell.
> >>
> >> If I was pushed for space I'd have one. I think it looks neat.
> >
> > Yea neat but fookin expensive.
> > A bit of old ply and the following and you've got if for about a
> > tenner!
> >
> > http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9370
> > 532&fh_view_size=50&fh_start_index=0&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fe
> > n_GB&fh_search=wheels&fh_eds=%C3%9F&fh_refview=search&ts=12598617493
> > 43&isSearch=true
>
> Yeah. Rubber casters. You're joking.

I love that's where you knock the idea :-)

--
Donnie
Honda CB500R "Look out, Donnie's about!"
Lambretta Series 2 186cc "The Shitter"
Lambretta LD 175cc "The Chopper"
From: Ace on
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:21:24 +0100, doetnietcomputeren
<doesnotcompute(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2009-12-04 15:04:49 +0100, Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> said:
>
>>> Stress is your response to the situation around you, if you're
>>> stressed, you are the only one to blame.
>>
>> Complete bollocks. Unless you consider that one's desire to keep a job
>> under difficult circumstances is your own fault.
>
>Pressure and stress are not the same thing.

Who mentioned pressure? Circumstances such as I allude to are
stressful in and of themselves.

>You have a choice, you make the choice. Perhaps if you are at the point
>where your only option is to quit, or do domething that you really
>don't want to do, you should have done something sooner - it's not like
>these things are often completely out of the blue.

Sure, they're usually the culmination of longer-term issues, but so
what? Not many of us have the luxury of just walking away from things
if they're not going our way. Working in a project which is painfully
going in the wrong direction when all your best advice has been
ignored, for example, will be stressful. The option to walk away may
or may not be available, but sometimes personal feelings have to take
second plae to business benefit, and that may mean sticking around in
a project to make sure that your users don't get completely screwed.
For example.

>> Would being
>> unemployed be less stressful? Well, maybe, but maybe not, eh?
>
>Being unemployed isn't stressful. Allowing yourself to run out of money
>and be unable to support yourself could be.

The one would inevitably, in time, lead to the other. For me, that is.
And the worry of that time approaching would certainly be stressful,
even though Swiss unemployment benefit would provide 80-odd grand[1] a
year for 18 months.

[1] CHF, of course, not Sterling.

From: Beav on

"'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4b18211a$0$2493$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk...
> Beav wrote:
>> "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:4b17e41e$0$2484$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>>> companies which think they can have rather obvious stuff
>>> manufactured in China for �2-3 then sell them here for �90
>>>
>>> www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/583537/Workshop/Bike-Movers/Renntec?utm_source=email&utm_medium=031209&utm_campaign=031209
>>>
>>> They can FRO
>>>
>>> I have enough fingers and toes to count how many they are likely to
>>> sell.
>>
>> I'd hazard a guess you'd be completely wrong though Hog.
>>
>> I know half a dozen people who'd buy one of those if they knew they
>> existed.
>
> I was of course expressing only my hopes. You only need to see how many
> HD's come out behind a Road Captain of a sunny day to realise some
> unpleasant facts of life.

Now you leave those Harley blokes alone. My hairdresser pal is getting
another one:-)

Anyone fancy a nice BMW 1200GS?

I'm losing count now.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19


From: Ace on
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:19:38 +0100, doetnietcomputeren
<doesnotcompute(a)gmail.com> wrote:


>Wouldn't it be better to do something about it rather than stress?

You clearly have no understanding of what 'Stress' means, so there's
no point arguing.