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From: Schmoe on 9 Jun 2010 21:47 <snarl(a)trippin.com> wrote in message news:46fv06lh9i9jrh4mb2gpqohcfdbfafbq6v(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:30:21 -0400, "Schmoe" <s(a)s.net> wrote: > >>It's Tuesday so this must be Brador night. Bottles on the bar, icy cold. >> >>Is there any functional, plug/wire/connection type or other difference >>between the H-D heated liner (I believe made by Gerbing) and the Gerbing >>sold direct? > > Should both be coax. > >>I'm asking because if you use the Chicago H-D discount, buying >>the H-D branded is actually cheaper (what? something cheaper at H-D???). >> >>Thoughts? > > Yeah, call their customer service number and ask for Tina... tell her > Snarl sent ya. She's a good friend and I even married her to my > Brother, Browneye. Plus they live a mile away. > > That's where I base *my* Gerbing knowledge from. Tina turned me on to > a vest that was a factory 2nd or had some little flaw that didn't > effect anything far as I can tell. After that I was hooked! Next was > a coat, gloves, socks, hell, Jeanne has a coat and controller for her > morning winter commute to work in th' cage. > > I've never needed any repair work, Jeanne's gone through a few > batteries... th' coat allows a battery pack as well as being plugged > in. I have helped a few ridin' buds that did need some work done and > Tina usually makes sure it's done right and in a timely manner. She > really is an excellent customer service rep. > > Gerbing moved th' manufacturing to China and their office from Union, > WA to Olympia, WA not too long ago. Things were a bit bumpy while th' > boxes were being unpacked, but that's long since been a non-issue. A > few folks had less than 5 star service during th' move... that's why. > > As far as th' politics of why they went to China goes, I dunno, don't > really care. It's not a hill I'm gonna die on anyway. All I know is > our Gerbing stuff is excellent and we love Tina. I'd say it'd be > cheaper in th' long run to deal direct with Gerbing than take a little > discount on th' front end. 'Sides ya might even get th' Snarl > discount. Thanks. You aren't too far from Olympia/Tumwater, right? I might be in SEA in a coupla weeks, maybe I'll rent a bike and take a ride to Gerbing direct, check 'em out. -- Numbero #128
From: Snag on 9 Jun 2010 22:36 George Pollard wrote: > On 6/9/2010 9:48 PM, Schmoe wrote: >> So you own Gerbing liners and WnS controllers. Are there still >> problems with Gerbing controllers as I've heard in the past? Do you >> know what makes the WnS controller better? I'm not opposed mix 'n >> match if it's best combo. > > I don't know about the Gerbing controller, but the WnS one is not > just a rheostat, but a microswitch that cycles the current on and off > rapidly, such that when it is set to 50% you are only using 50% of > the maximum power, as opposed to a rheostat that uses 100% of the > power all the time and shunts the extra off as heat (in the > controller). They're called "Pulse Width Modulation" controllers and they do exactly what George said . Control comes from varying the "width" of the "on" and"off" times . They cost about six bucks to build - you can get kits on the internet that do the same thing for MUCH less than either supplier charges . You supply the box and connectors , maybe another six bucks ... One of my upcoming projects , those gloves can be too warm sometimes . -- Snag "90 FLHTCU "Strider" '39 WLDD "PopCycle" BS 132/SENS/DOF
From: snarl on 10 Jun 2010 11:19 On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 21:47:04 -0400, "Schmoe" <schmoe(a)schmoeville.net> wrote: ><snarl(a)trippin.com> wrote in message >news:46fv06lh9i9jrh4mb2gpqohcfdbfafbq6v(a)4ax.com... <schnipp> >> As far as th' politics of why they went to China goes, I dunno, don't >> really care. It's not a hill I'm gonna die on anyway. All I know is >> our Gerbing stuff is excellent and we love Tina. I'd say it'd be >> cheaper in th' long run to deal direct with Gerbing than take a little >> discount on th' front end. 'Sides ya might even get th' Snarl >> discount. > >Thanks. You aren't too far from Olympia/Tumwater, right? Nope, we're only about 45 min. from there. >I might be in SEA >in a coupla weeks, maybe I'll rent a bike and take a ride to Gerbing direct, >check 'em out. Lemme know. This is th' closest H-D dealer to th' airport with rentals: http://downtownhd.com/Default.asp Snarl
From: TL (at work) on 10 Jun 2010 22:00 "George Pollard" <george(a)hiwaay.net> wrote > I've got the jacket liner and gloves, used them a lot last winter. Kept > me toasty. I would put the liner on over my work shirt, then my mesh > jacket on over that, and ride home comfortably in 35-40 degree weather, > and I hate the cold. I'll try to remember to throw them in the saddlebag > for EKIII and let you see and touch them. I carry mine 24/7... you just never know. Hopefully you won't be wearing 'em while all the seeing and touching is going on. 112
From: TL (at work) on 10 Jun 2010 22:06
"Schmoe" <schmoe(a)schmoeville.net> wrote > So you own Gerbing liners and WnS controllers. Are there still problems > with Gerbing controllers as I've heard in the past? Do you know what makes > the WnS controller better? I'm not opposed mix 'n match if it's best > combo. I haven't heard much about the Gerbing controllers and I know a lot of folks use 'em. Must have 'em squared around. The guy that runs WnS invented the Heatroller and is constantly refining 'em. /from what I understand he did a lot of design on Gerbing's stuff before he got the heave ho. I had a controller meltdown a week out of warranty and Gerbing's told me I was SOL. The WnS guy not only stood behind it he sent me pick of whatever I wanted out of the catalog. When I plugged the wrong wire in the wrong place (old SAE connectors) and toasted it he once again shipped a replacement free of charge.... over a year out of warranty. That kind of service earns my loyalty. If you want something specially configured like my wires are I'm thinking he's the only game in town. AFAIK Gerbings only sells off the rack controller-wise. 112 |