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From: snarl on 11 Jun 2010 14:06 On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:06:38 -0400, "TL \(at work\)" <tlmitchell99(nospam)@earthlink.net> wrote: >"Schmoe" <schmoe(a)schmoeville.net> wrote > >> So you own Gerbing liners and WnS controllers. Are there still problems >> with Gerbing controllers as I've heard in the past? Do you know what makes >> the WnS controller better? I'm not opposed mix 'n match if it's best >> combo. > >I haven't heard much about the Gerbing controllers and I know a lot of folks >use 'em. Must have 'em squared around. > >The guy that runs WnS invented the Heatroller and is constantly refining >'em. /from what I understand he did a lot of design on Gerbing's stuff >before he got the heave ho. Have you read his blog about their house being broke into? I think Tom posted a link to it earlier. My impression from reading that was he's one of those guys who has a lot of problems <g>. >I had a controller meltdown a week out of >warranty and Gerbing's told me I was SOL. I think Fins' controller was outta warrantee and Tina replaced it, no questions asked. Snarl... no mellows were harshed
From: Schmoe on 12 Jun 2010 09:19 "Snag" <snag_one(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:cdYPn.56728$h57.49952(a)newsfe22.iad... > George Pollard wrote: >> On 6/9/2010 9:48 PM, Schmoe wrote: >>> So you own Gerbing liners and WnS controllers. Are there still >>> problems with Gerbing controllers as I've heard in the past? Do you >>> know what makes the WnS controller better? I'm not opposed mix 'n >>> match if it's best combo. >> >> I don't know about the Gerbing controller, but the WnS one is not >> just a rheostat, but a microswitch that cycles the current on and off >> rapidly, such that when it is set to 50% you are only using 50% of >> the maximum power, as opposed to a rheostat that uses 100% of the >> power all the time and shunts the extra off as heat (in the >> controller). > > They're called "Pulse Width Modulation" controllers and they do exactly > what George said . Control comes from varying the "width" of the "on" > and"off" times . They cost about six bucks to build - you can get kits on > the internet that do the same thing for MUCH less than either supplier > charges . You supply the box and connectors , maybe another six bucks ... > One of my upcoming projects , those gloves can be too warm sometimes . Care to build me a couple too? Parts, shipping & Makers Mark? :) -- Numbero #128
From: Schmoe on 12 Jun 2010 09:20 "George Pollard" <george(a)hiwaay.net> wrote in message news:4c10493a$1(a)127.0.0.1... > On 6/9/2010 9:48 PM, Schmoe wrote: >> So you own Gerbing liners and WnS controllers. Are there still problems >> with Gerbing controllers as I've heard in the past? Do you know what >> makes the WnS controller better? I'm not opposed mix 'n match if it's >> best combo. > > I don't know about the Gerbing controller, but the WnS one is not just a > rheostat, but a microswitch that cycles the current on and off rapidly, > such that when it is set to 50% you are only using 50% of the maximum > power, as opposed to a rheostat that uses 100% of the power all the time > and shunts the extra off as heat (in the controller). Ok, I'm fairly convinced. Gerbing for the liners, WnS (or Snag LOL) for the controllers. -- Numbero #128
From: Schmoe on 12 Jun 2010 09:31 <snarl(a)trippin.com> wrote in message news:4tv1165cfri891tfqm67l7fvj8bgldfc0j(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 21:47:04 -0400, "Schmoe" <schmoe(a)schmoeville.net> > wrote: > >><snarl(a)trippin.com> wrote in message >>news:46fv06lh9i9jrh4mb2gpqohcfdbfafbq6v(a)4ax.com... > > <schnipp> > >>> As far as th' politics of why they went to China goes, I dunno, don't >>> really care. It's not a hill I'm gonna die on anyway. All I know is >>> our Gerbing stuff is excellent and we love Tina. I'd say it'd be >>> cheaper in th' long run to deal direct with Gerbing than take a little >>> discount on th' front end. 'Sides ya might even get th' Snarl >>> discount. >> >>Thanks. You aren't too far from Olympia/Tumwater, right? > > Nope, we're only about 45 min. from there. > >>I might be in SEA >>in a coupla weeks, maybe I'll rent a bike and take a ride to Gerbing >>direct, >>check 'em out. > > Lemme know. This is th' closest H-D dealer to th' airport with > rentals: http://downtownhd.com/Default.asp Just booked the flight. I've got Monday 6/21 open, land around 11:30am. Dealership closed Monday's so that's out. I'm thinking about renting a car and driving down to Gerbing. You up for lunch & a drink or 3? -- Numbero #128
From: Snag on 12 Jun 2010 09:37
Schmoe wrote: > "Snag" <snag_one(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:cdYPn.56728$h57.49952(a)newsfe22.iad... >> George Pollard wrote: >>> On 6/9/2010 9:48 PM, Schmoe wrote: >>>> So you own Gerbing liners and WnS controllers. Are there still >>>> problems with Gerbing controllers as I've heard in the past? Do you >>>> know what makes the WnS controller better? I'm not opposed mix 'n >>>> match if it's best combo. >>> >>> I don't know about the Gerbing controller, but the WnS one is not >>> just a rheostat, but a microswitch that cycles the current on and >>> off rapidly, such that when it is set to 50% you are only using 50% >>> of the maximum power, as opposed to a rheostat that uses 100% of the >>> power all the time and shunts the extra off as heat (in the >>> controller). >> >> They're called "Pulse Width Modulation" controllers and they do >> exactly what George said . Control comes from varying the "width" of >> the "on" and"off" times . They cost about six bucks to build - you >> can get kits on the internet that do the same thing for MUCH less >> than either supplier charges . You supply the box and connectors , >> maybe another six bucks ... One of my upcoming projects , those >> gloves can be too warm sometimes . > > > Care to build me a couple too? Parts, shipping & Makers Mark? :) > > -- > Numbero #128 I'll consider it ... and that's Dickel . I need to check again , the prices for the kits may have changed . What I was thinking about would handle both a jacket/liner and gloves as far as power handling capacity , but would not have independent control . -- Snag "90 FLHTCU "Strider" '39 WLDD "PopCycle" BS 132/SENS/DOF |