How Much Lean Will a Croozer Take?
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From: S'mee on 4 Jun 2010 12:05 On Jun 4, 5:28 am, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Kind of a newbie question ..., Honda Shadow 600 ... > > From time to time I'll hit a freeway exit curve or something similar > carrying too much speed. Because I'm not 16 and riding a sportbike, it > might be 60 when 40 is appropriate rather than 140 when 40 is appropriate.. > > 99.9% of the time, I don't do it. > > And when I do do it, 99.9% of the time as soon as I realize what I'm about > to do, I'll brake aggressively before I'm forced to turn ... problem solved, > but inelegantly. > > However, once in a while I do really carry too much speed. Once when I did > it I didn't quite scrape the pegs, but I was leaned over quite far enough > and the exit ramp was paved in blacktop and I had my mental fingers crossed > that the tires were going to hold. > > Anyway, here are my questions: > > a)How far can I go over before the tires let go? On dry concrete can I > scrape the pegs reliably? Well simply put if you have IRC tyres you wont get over very far. IF you have good tyres you WILL be able to scrape the pegs HARD. BTDT...on a cruiser lower and slower than yours, BUT 50cc bigger. > b)If it happens, how does it happen? (My guess is that the rear end slides > out and you low-side onto the ground. I also would guess there is no > warning. But I'm perhaps wrong.) No telling there are so many variables it's not worth looking into. Usually there is little or no warning. > Thanks, Datesfat Not a problem, don't forget ignore the pedarast Krusty and get out there and scrape those pegs! Mind, build up to that speed in increments.
From: S'mee on 4 Jun 2010 12:06 On Jun 4, 9:35 am, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 4, 9:08 am, "?" <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > <snip> > > A lot of words written to avoid admitting you were full of it. Not for that posse' dodging pedarast.
From: Datesfat Chicks on 4 Jun 2010 14:40 "S'mee" <stevenkeith2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ba20b8c1-5d5f-42a6-b17e-aa05c36ae891(a)u20g2000pru.googlegroups.com... > >Well simply put if you have IRC tyres you wont get over very far. IF >you have good tyres you WILL be able to scrape the pegs HARD. >BTDT...on a cruiser lower and slower than yours, BUT 50cc bigger. What do IRC and BTDT stand for? Thanks, Datesfat
From: Mark Olson on 4 Jun 2010 14:55 Datesfat Chicks wrote: > "S'mee" <stevenkeith2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ba20b8c1-5d5f-42a6-b17e-aa05c36ae891(a)u20g2000pru.googlegroups.com... >> >> Well simply put if you have IRC tyres you wont get over very far. IF >> you have good tyres you WILL be able to scrape the pegs HARD. >> BTDT...on a cruiser lower and slower than yours, BUT 50cc bigger. > > What do IRC and BTDT stand for? Inoue Rubber Company., Ltd. http://www.irc-tire.com/ Been There, Done That.
From: ? on 4 Jun 2010 14:58
On Jun 4, 6:55 am, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > So I wasn't asking about scraping the pegs as a warning sign -- I was asking > about warning signs that the tires are going to let go (i.e. transition from > static to kinetic friction). Simply put, the tire *vibrates* at a predictable frequency, then it stops vibrating, and the ride quality gets eerily smooth. Then you crash. Those of us who have studied the characteristics of traction under high lateral forces are aware that there is a cycle of grip and release, re-grip and re-release, etc., that occurs about three times per second, which is also the natural frequency of suspension springs pre-loaded correctly for brisk sport riding or road racing. The cycle of grip and release has to do with the sloughing off of the thin surface layer of "dead" rubber, exposing a fresh surface of "live" high traction rubber. In his seminal work "Twist of the Wrist" Keith Code describes the loss of traction just before crashing as a sudden smoothness in the ride quality... HTH. And, don't take The English Mental Patient too seriously. He's insanely jealous, yannow... |