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From: don (Calgary) on 1 Feb 2010 21:50

I stumbled across this link in another forum.
http://www.powersportstv.com/most-popular/motorcycles.php

They offer popularity rankings for the various brands and classes of
motorcycles. I have no idea of how they arrived at the rankings, but
if you are looking for a time waster, it is an interesting read.

Here is a sample of their findings:

Most Popular Motorcycles Overall
1. 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
2. 2008 Suzuki Hayabusa� 1340
3. 2008 Honda CBR� 1000RR
4. 2008 Suzuki GSX-R 600
5. 2009 Suzuki GSX-R 1000
6. 2009 Suzuki Hayabusa� 1340
7. 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
8. 2008 Yamaha YZF R1
9. 2008 Yamaha YZF R6
10. 2010 Honda CBR� 600RR

Most Popular Touring Motorcycles
1. 2009 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide� Classic
2. 2010 Honda Gold Wing� Audio / Comfort
3. 2009 Honda Gold Wing� Audio / Comfort / Navi / XM / ABS
4. 2010 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide� Ultra Limited
5. 2008 Harley-Davidson Street Glide� Base
6. 2008 Honda VTX� 1800 Tourer Spec 2
7. 2010 Harley-Davidson Road King� Classic
8. 2008 Honda VTX� 1800 Tourer Spec 1
9. 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan� 1700 Voyager�
10. 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan� 900 Classic LT
From: Mark Olson on 1 Feb 2010 22:11
don (Calgary) wrote:
> I stumbled across this link in another forum.
> http://www.powersportstv.com/most-popular/motorcycles.php
>
> They offer popularity rankings for the various brands and classes of
> motorcycles. I have no idea of how they arrived at the rankings, but
> if you are looking for a time waster, it is an interesting read.
>
> Here is a sample of their findings:
>
> Most Popular Motorcycles Overall
> 1. 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
> 2. 2008 Suzuki Hayabusa� 1340
> 3. 2008 Honda CBR� 1000RR
> 4. 2008 Suzuki GSX-R 600
> 5. 2009 Suzuki GSX-R 1000
> 6. 2009 Suzuki Hayabusa� 1340
> 7. 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
> 8. 2008 Yamaha YZF R1
> 9. 2008 Yamaha YZF R6
> 10. 2010 Honda CBR� 600RR
>
> Most Popular Touring Motorcycles
> 1. 2009 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide� Classic
> 2. 2010 Honda Gold Wing� Audio / Comfort
> 3. 2009 Honda Gold Wing� Audio / Comfort / Navi / XM / ABS
> 4. 2010 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide� Ultra Limited
> 5. 2008 Harley-Davidson Street Glide� Base
> 6. 2008 Honda VTX� 1800 Tourer Spec 2
> 7. 2010 Harley-Davidson Road King� Classic
> 8. 2008 Honda VTX� 1800 Tourer Spec 1
> 9. 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan� 1700 Voyager�
> 10. 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan� 900 Classic LT

I have no idea where that list came from but I seriously doubt that
in the real world there is any way the Hayabusa is the nearest neighbor
to the EX250 in any actual measurable way save for their relative
positions on that particular list. Not that either bike isn't a good
bike.

The only measure of popularity that makes any sort of sense to me is
sales figures, but maybe that's just too obvious. I can certainly
believe a Harley tops the list of touring bikes sold in the USA.

This page:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-news/statistics/motorcycle-sales-statistics.htm

has an interesting chart of total sales figures dating back to 1992.
I suspect based on nothing more than a wild-assed guess, that the
peak corresponds to some sweet spot age range in the population of
baby boomers.

From: don (Calgary) on 1 Feb 2010 23:05
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:11:50 -0600, Mark Olson <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid>
wrote:

>don (Calgary) wrote:
>> I stumbled across this link in another forum.
>> http://www.powersportstv.com/most-popular/motorcycles.php
>>
>> They offer popularity rankings for the various brands and classes of
>> motorcycles. I have no idea of how they arrived at the rankings, but
>> if you are looking for a time waster, it is an interesting read.
>>
>> Here is a sample of their findings:
>>
>> Most Popular Motorcycles Overall
>> 1. 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
>> 2. 2008 Suzuki Hayabusa� 1340
>> 3. 2008 Honda CBR� 1000RR
>> 4. 2008 Suzuki GSX-R 600
>> 5. 2009 Suzuki GSX-R 1000
>> 6. 2009 Suzuki Hayabusa� 1340
>> 7. 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
>> 8. 2008 Yamaha YZF R1
>> 9. 2008 Yamaha YZF R6
>> 10. 2010 Honda CBR� 600RR
>>
>> Most Popular Touring Motorcycles
>> 1. 2009 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide� Classic
>> 2. 2010 Honda Gold Wing� Audio / Comfort
>> 3. 2009 Honda Gold Wing� Audio / Comfort / Navi / XM / ABS
>> 4. 2010 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide� Ultra Limited
>> 5. 2008 Harley-Davidson Street Glide� Base
>> 6. 2008 Honda VTX� 1800 Tourer Spec 2
>> 7. 2010 Harley-Davidson Road King� Classic
>> 8. 2008 Honda VTX� 1800 Tourer Spec 1
>> 9. 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan� 1700 Voyager�
>> 10. 2009 Kawasaki Vulcan� 900 Classic LT
>
>I have no idea where that list came from but I seriously doubt that
>in the real world there is any way the Hayabusa is the nearest neighbor
>to the EX250 in any actual measurable way save for their relative
>positions on that particular list. Not that either bike isn't a good
>bike.

I don't know how they arrived at their numbers either. If it was
offered as any kind of a credible list they would have noted their
sources.
>
>The only measure of popularity that makes any sort of sense to me is
>sales figures, but maybe that's just too obvious. I can certainly
>believe a Harley tops the list of touring bikes sold in the USA.

At the end of the day there are a number of methods to measure
popularity, sales being one of them. I am sure regional differences
should be factored into any definitive list. What may be popular in
areas lush with winding, rolling roads might not be the most popular
in the Canadian or US flatlands.

I tend to judge popularity of motorcycles based on the riders I meet
while on the road, and what style/brand of bike they are riding.
Granted it is a sampling of a very narrow band of riders, but they are
the ones most relevant to my style of riding.
>
>This page:
>http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-news/statistics/motorcycle-sales-statistics.htm
>
>has an interesting chart of total sales figures dating back to 1992.
>I suspect based on nothing more than a wild-assed guess, that the
>peak corresponds to some sweet spot age range in the population of
>baby boomers.

I have seen that page before. I think most, if not all of their data
is drawn from the Motorcycle Industry Council and is based on sales. I
tried to get access to the MIC page but it seems to be for industry
insiders only, and is relatively well protected.
From: The Older Gentleman on 2 Feb 2010 02:13
don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote:

> >I have no idea where that list came from but I seriously doubt that
> >in the real world there is any way the Hayabusa is the nearest neighbor
> >to the EX250 in any actual measurable way save for their relative
> >positions on that particular list. Not that either bike isn't a good
> >bike.
>
> I don't know how they arrived at their numbers either. If it was
> offered as any kind of a credible list they would have noted their
> sources.

It's got to be the number actually registered and on the road. Note the
varying model years (2008, 2009, etc etc). I suppose it could be sales
figures as well, but then how many CBR600s will Honda have sold in 2010,
eh? Unless that's a reference to the most popular bi9kes sold so far
this year...

> >
> >The only measure of popularity that makes any sort of sense to me is
> >sales figures, but maybe that's just too obvious. I can certainly
> >believe a Harley tops the list of touring bikes sold in the USA.
>
> At the end of the day there are a number of methods to measure
> popularity, sales being one of them.

It's the *only* one. Everything else is just opinions, wishlists, etc.

> I am sure regional differences
> should be factored into any definitive list. What may be popular in
> areas lush with winding, rolling roads might not be the most popular
> in the Canadian or US flatlands.
>
> I tend to judge popularity of motorcycles based on the riders I meet
> while on the road, and what style/brand of bike they are riding.
> Granted it is a sampling of a very narrow band of riders, but they are
> the ones most relevant to my style of riding.

It's narrow, yes, and only relevant to a particular style/region and
even time of riding, so irrelevant overall.

> >
> >This page:
>
>http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-news/statistics/motorcycle-sales
-statistics.htm
> >
> >has an interesting chart of total sales figures dating back to 1992.
> >I suspect based on nothing more than a wild-assed guess, that the
> >peak corresponds to some sweet spot age range in the population of
> >baby boomers.

Also corresponds to a time of affluence and very strong economic growth,
and bikes are leisure vehicles mainly, so I'd expect to see this. More
due to the economy than baby boomers, at a guess.
>
> I have seen that page before. I think most, if not all of their data
> is drawn from the Motorcycle Industry Council and is based on sales. I
> tried to get access to the MIC page but it seems to be for industry
> insiders only, and is relatively well protected.

Odd. The data's freely available in the UK, for UK registrations.

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From: Vito on 2 Feb 2010 07:49
"Mark Olson" <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote
| This page:
|
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-news/statistics/motorcycle-sales-statistics.htm
|
| has an interesting chart of total sales figures dating back to 1992.
| I suspect based on nothing more than a wild-assed guess, that the
| peak corresponds to some sweet spot age range in the population of
| baby boomers.
|
Thanks! I'd guess you are right. I noticed is that 2009 was about the same
as 1999 and better than pre-99 years. H-D dealers I knew had waiting lists
from 1992 til 99 and beyond. Local dealer has gone "Old School" - five days
a week, Tues thru Sat, and shorter hours (10-6) just like a <g> real bike
shop.


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