From: darsy on
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:39:07 -0000, Pip <gingerbloke(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <56t1i5l1phqjbhtq132stk0mifqp02gqlq(a)4ax.com>, Champ says...
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:47:46 +0000, darsy <darsy(a)sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:40:59 +0000, Alan
>> ><alanb_stard(a)nospambtopenworld.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>ZX10 - Gren of course
>> >
>> >whilst, in general, life's too short to proof-read Usenet, having a
>> >typo in one's .sig is somewhat infra dig.
>>
>> Maybe he was using the phonetic spelling i.e. \gren\
>> --
>> Champ
>> We declare that the splendor of the world
>
>As opposed to the American spelling, as demonstrated to great effect by
>yourself, above.

he's quoting an Italian - cut him some slack, FFS.
--
d.
From: Champ on
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:39:07 -0000, Pip <gingerbloke(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> Champ
>> We declare that the splendor of the world...

>As opposed to the American spelling, as demonstrated to great effect by
>yourself, above.

It was an American translation from the original Italian.

<fixed now>
--
Champ
We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo
neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: darsy on
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:59:01 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:39:07 -0000, Pip <gingerbloke(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Champ
>>> We declare that the splendor of the world...
>
>>As opposed to the American spelling, as demonstrated to great effect by
>>yourself, above.
>
>It was an American translation from the original Italian.

it's not really beholden of a founding member of the BHaLc to support
the views of a fascist, though, is it?
--
d.
From: Pip on
In article <mjv1i5hmkaijkjrbppmrfcgbsblkqvftgl(a)4ax.com>, Champ says...
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:39:07 -0000, Pip <gingerbloke(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Champ
> >> We declare that the splendor of the world...
>
> >As opposed to the American spelling, as demonstrated to great effect by
> >yourself, above.
>
> It was an American translation from the original Italian.
>
> <fixed now>

Myself is very grateful to your good self.

--

Pip, the "Mechanical Nightmare" (tm Bonwick Major)
From: zymurgy on
On 9 Dec, 22:25, Mark Olson <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> wrote:
> zymurgy wrote:
> > i've been torqueing by feel for over 25 years now. The only
> > bolts that I religiously torque are head bolts,
>
> > The only bolt I broke recently was using a torque wrench, as I was
> > bolting down the crankshaft bearing journals on Nige's old firestorm.
> > 2 of the bolts stretched, needing replacements from Honda. I should
> > have used 'feel' instead ;)
>
> Were those bearing cap bolts oiled at all, by any chance?  

Not specifically, but there might have been a bit of oil hanging
around. A bearing journal is a pretty oily place, by design :)

> Usually torque specs are for dry threads.  
> An amusing adherence to this rule
> is displayed by Yamaha, the oil drain bolt in many an FJR has stripped
> the threads in the sump because of course it is next to impossible to
> get the threads dry after the oil has just drained through it, and
> trusting neophytes faithfully apply the 35 ft-lb the manual says to use....

Christ, 35lb/ft is some torque. Is that steel into aluminium threads ?
I just nip those up gently. Long practice from doing (old style) Mini
sump plugs.

> And were they torque-to-yield, meaning they all should have been new?

No, they just kept on turning beyond what the rest of them did, but I
foolishly trusted the torque wrench :/

Paul.