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From: Catman on 30 Sep 2009 11:19 Cab wrote: > I'm expecting [1] some wonderful responses to this but hopefully some > sensible ones too. > > I know that a lot of you love coming over here and enjoy the roads. > The ex-pat population is sizeable in France now and there are loads of > other "links" between England and France. > > But why is it that there is always an air of "The English hate the > French" (and vv, I suppose)? What is(are) the reason(s)? No idea. Personally I love France and the French almost without exception. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: The Older Gentleman on 30 Sep 2009 11:34 Cab <rosbif(a)gmail.com> wrote: > But why is it that there is always an air of "The English hate the > French" (and vv, I suppose)? What is(are) the reason(s)? A millenium of war forms habits that are hard to break. Plus they're too like us. -- BMW K1100LT & K100RS Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Pip on 30 Sep 2009 11:55 In article <slrnhc6rmt.em.phill(a)mail.launchbury.org.uk>, Phil Launchbury says... > Harold Godwinson was most certainly English - given that his father was > Anglo-Saxon and he was born in England. Father was German, then. > > His mother was Norse - but that doesn't preclude him being English. Nationality conferred by place of birth rather than parenthood isn't unique, I suppose. I'd suggest he'd have at least three passports, though. -- Pip, the "Mechanical Nightmare" (tm Bonwick Major)
From: Beav on 30 Sep 2009 11:57 "Phil Launchbury" <phill(a)launchbury.org.uk> wrote in message news:slrnhc6rmt.em.phill(a)mail.launchbury.org.uk... > In article > <99cf1547-1567-4e59-a1d5-4efe76e8f3aa(a)f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > Colonel Tupperware wrote: >> >> William the Conker wasn't French, anymore than Harald who got shot in >> the Eye was English. > > Huh? > > Harold Godwinson was most certainly English - given that his father was > Anglo-Saxon and he was born in England. > > His mother was Norse - but that doesn't preclude him being English. > > You may be thinking of Harold Hardrada who was also Norse. But he was > most definately not present at the Battle of Senlac Hill given that he > was dead by that point.. (at the battle of Stamford Brigde a week of so > before Senlac Hill). > > As to William being French - by his time the Normans were most > definately Frechified - they spoke French, lived in France and used the > French cultural standards rather than their previous Norse ones. And > given that he was born in Falaise (which last time I chaecked was in > France) and was descended from at least 5 generations of people born in > France I'd say he qualified as French.. And there's always the "Des" definition of being French to work with if all else fails:-) -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
From: Beav on 30 Sep 2009 11:59
"Cab" <rosbif(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0a054b35-d27e-4064-80dc-2151e478b36f(a)c37g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > I'm expecting [1] some wonderful responses to this but hopefully some > sensible ones too. > > I know that a lot of you love coming over here and enjoy the roads. > The ex-pat population is sizeable in France now and there are loads of > other "links" between England and France. > > But why is it that there is always an air of "The English hate the > French" (and vv, I suppose)? What is(are) the reason(s)? Coz it's fashionable. Like calling them Surrender Monkeys. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |