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From: JackH on 23 Jan 2010 14:36 On 23 Jan, 19:32, "Lozzo" <lo...(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: > JackH wrote: > > Are you saying they subsequently decided not to shift some aspects of > > production abroad? > > Certainly some aspects, but not the "bulk of production" you mention in > your first post to this thread. AIUI some of the twin cylinder bikes > are assembled in Thailand from part locally made and part imported from > Hinckley components and sub-assemblies. The word back in the day was that they were going to shift the bulk of production to Hungary. Obviously a good thing if they decided against this in the end. <sets up rod and keepnet> Given I have no interest in any of their bikes since that crappy Daytona 955i I had and having seen others have plenty of bother with them, I've not bothered to follow their progress much since. -- JackH
From: Lozzo on 23 Jan 2010 14:44 JackH wrote: > Given I have no interest in any of their bikes since that crappy > Daytona 955i I had and having seen others have plenty of bother with > them, I've not bothered to follow their progress much since. My 955i Daytona was a very well built bike that did more than I ever expected of it. We're racing a Daytona 675 at the moment, and it's been brilliant. Danny has put it on the podium at every meeting we've taken it to so far against some very strong competition, such as the huge numbers of 2008/9 R6s that dominated Bemsee Superstock 600s last season. When stripped for it's two-yearly refresh it only needed two valve clearances adjusting and engine bearings were only replaced as a matter of course - none of them showed any sign of wear or being anywhere near out of tolerance. The only thing replaced through wear was the clutch basket, but Danny is known for having been notoriously hard on the clutch of every bike he's ever raced. I'd say you bought a shitter, but very very few of them are like that - all depends who's owned it before and the quality and frequency of the servicing regime. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
From: The Older Gentleman on 23 Jan 2010 14:48 JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 23 Jan, 19:18, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) > wrote: > > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > On 23 Jan, 17:27, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) > > > wrote: > > > > Maybe this was reported while I was abroad, so I missed it, but the > > > > Times today has a big story in the business section about the triumph > > > > of, er, Triumph, which has now nudged Kawasaki into fifth place. > > > > > > And Triumph is now outselling BMW in the US. > > > > > > Time Bloor got a knighthood, I reckon. > > > > > Why? > > > > > Didn't he shift the bulk of production to somewhere like Hungary once > > > the brand was pretty well re-established... and not long before a > > > large chunk of Hinckley burned to the ground? > > > > Er, no. > > No? > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1876342.stm > > I was working at the local Triumph dealers at around the time of the > fire, so was very aware of what was going on given it was sort of > linked to my job at the time. > > Are you saying they subsequently decided not to shift some aspects of > production abroad? > Yes, they did, to Thailand. Not Hungary. And your post says they did this *before* the fire, which isn't true. They established the Thai factory afterwards. The Beeb link you post even corroborates that. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: JackH on 23 Jan 2010 17:01 On 23 Jan, 19:48, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > On 23 Jan, 19:18, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) > > wrote: > > > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > On 23 Jan, 17:27, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) > > > > wrote: > > > > > Maybe this was reported while I was abroad, so I missed it, but the > > > > > Times today has a big story in the business section about the triumph > > > > > of, er, Triumph, which has now nudged Kawasaki into fifth place. > > > > > > And Triumph is now outselling BMW in the US. > > > > > > Time Bloor got a knighthood, I reckon. > > > > > Why? > > > > > Didn't he shift the bulk of production to somewhere like Hungary once > > > > the brand was pretty well re-established... and not long before a > > > > large chunk of Hinckley burned to the ground? > > > > Er, no. > > > No? > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1876342.stm > > > I was working at the local Triumph dealers at around the time of the > > fire, so was very aware of what was going on given it was sort of > > linked to my job at the time. > > > Are you saying they subsequently decided not to shift some aspects of > > production abroad? > > Yes, they did, to Thailand. > > Not Hungary. Ok... so any idea what percentage of production was shifted abroad? > And your post says they did this *before* the fire, which isn't true. It was on the cards before the fire. Strange that... ;-) -- JackH
From: JackH on 23 Jan 2010 17:01
On 23 Jan, 19:48, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > On 23 Jan, 19:18, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) > > wrote: > > > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > On 23 Jan, 17:27, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) > > > > wrote: > > > > > Maybe this was reported while I was abroad, so I missed it, but the > > > > > Times today has a big story in the business section about the triumph > > > > > of, er, Triumph, which has now nudged Kawasaki into fifth place. > > > > > > And Triumph is now outselling BMW in the US. > > > > > > Time Bloor got a knighthood, I reckon. > > > > > Why? > > > > > Didn't he shift the bulk of production to somewhere like Hungary once > > > > the brand was pretty well re-established... and not long before a > > > > large chunk of Hinckley burned to the ground? > > > > Er, no. > > > No? > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1876342.stm > > > I was working at the local Triumph dealers at around the time of the > > fire, so was very aware of what was going on given it was sort of > > linked to my job at the time. > > > Are you saying they subsequently decided not to shift some aspects of > > production abroad? > > Yes, they did, to Thailand. > > Not Hungary. Ok... so any idea what percentage of production was shifted abroad? > And your post says they did this *before* the fire, which isn't true. It was on the cards before the fire. Strange that... ;-) -- JackH |