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From: Andy Bonwick on 24 Jan 2010 10:17 On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:11:34 -0800 (PST), JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: snip> > >Fact is, our manufacturing base has been largely run into the ground >over the last two or three decades... and now the wheels have started >to come off the industries that took its place in the monetary >generation chain, we're left wondering how to make up the shortfall. > It might be interesting to have a look at how many posters on here left jobs where they were doing 'hands on' technical work when opportunities arose in computing. They were never replaced because school leavers also wanted to get into programming rather than get their hands dirty building a 500MW turbine. >Meanwhile, you're suggesting production of goods elsewhere isn't a bad >thing - read the above and then explain to me again why it isn't a bad >thing economically, not least when you're living in a country that is >as heavily reliant on imports as the UK. To keep the price competitive you have the choice of shipping production out to countries like Thailand or bring cheap labour over here. Which do you prefer?
From: Andy Bonwick on 24 Jan 2010 10:22 On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:19:07 -0800 (PST), JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >On 24 Jan, 12:04, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) >wrote: snip> >> Production line jobs. Assembly. The high-skilled jobs (which are also >> high-value) stay here, and the country reaps a benefit. > >Does it? > >What benefit is it that the country reaps, then? > >I can see how maybe the business reaps a benefit, but not the country >given the above. If Triumph tried to manufacture motorbikes using locally sourced parts and labour they'd have to lift their prices by such a margin that they'd stop selling. The engineers currently working in skilled positions within Triumph would be made redundant and that'd be the last we'd see of those skills.
From: The Older Gentleman on 24 Jan 2010 11:44 Fr Jack <sp(a)m.com> wrote: > http://02d9656.netsoljsp.com/SarcMark/modules/user/commonfiles/loadhome.do Heh. Nice idea, crappy icon. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: wessie on 24 Jan 2010 17:05 JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:e1803d00-523b-47d5-a874-a859e07c9598(a)e25g2000yqh.googlegroups.com: > On 24 Jan, 16:01, Andy Bonwick <nos...(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:35:49 -0800 (PST), JackH > Plumbing and heating. > >> I know there are courses out there for electricians etc that claim to >> train someone _and_ find them a job afterwards but that won't open up >> the more highly paid positions that will require you to have >> completed a recognised apprenticeship and have done 4 years at >> college. > > Aye, well... I'm lucky enough to have a father who is willing to train > me right up and get me through my 'Gas Safe' certification etc, as > well as gradually handing over the reins as he slips into retirement. > If he is a 1 man band and has an established clientele that provides regular work on routine servicing with a couple of boiler replacements each month then it will be a relatively stress free life. Just don't get involved with insurance jobs or emergency call outs, except to established clients. Leave that to the cowboys. -- wessie at tesco dot net BMW R1150GS
From: Dan L on 24 Jan 2010 17:10
wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote: > JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in > news:e1803d00-523b-47d5-a874-a859e07c9598(a)e25g2000yqh.googlegroups.com: > > > > On 24 Jan, 16:01, Andy Bonwick <nos...(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote: > >> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:35:49 -0800 (PST), JackH > > Plumbing and heating. > > > >> I know there are courses out there for electricians etc that claim > > > to > >> train someone _and_ find them a job afterwards but that won't open > > > up > >> the more highly paid positions that will require you to have > >> completed a recognised apprenticeship and have done 4 years at > >> college. > > > > Aye, well... I'm lucky enough to have a father who is willing to > > train > > me right up and get me through my 'Gas Safe' certification etc, as > > well as gradually handing over the reins as he slips into > > retirement. > > > > If he is a 1 man band and has an established clientele that provides > regular work on routine servicing with a couple of boiler replacements > each > month then it will be a relatively stress free life. Just don't get > involved with insurance jobs or emergency call outs, except to > established > clients. Leave that to the cowboys. Get a 60 kw + ticket and you'll never be out of work -- Dan L not using a PC |