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From: wessie on 23 Jan 2010 17:37 JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:4b4884e8-d433-470c-b935-e6602dea8ebe(a)h2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com: > Ok... so any idea what percentage of production was shifted abroad? > Net. None. According to that Times article they make 46,000 bikes in the UK and employ 1200 people, which is more than ever. At the time of the fire the UK plant employed 650. According to wiki, the Thai plant has capacity for 130,000 bikes. I imagine the Thai plant makes some sub-assemblies for the UK and maybe vice versa. If you read the press, the main reason Bloor has opened up in Thailand is to gain access to India as they have a free trade agreement, so he can avoid the high import duty. -- wessie at tesco dot net BMW R1150GS
From: JackH on 23 Jan 2010 17:44 On 23 Jan, 22:37, wessie <putmynameh...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote innews:4b4884e8-d433-470c-b935-e6602dea8ebe(a)h2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com: > > > Ok... so any idea what percentage of production was shifted abroad? > > Net. None. According to that Times article they make 46,000 bikes in the UK > and employ 1200 people, which is more than ever. At the time of the fire > the UK plant employed 650. > > According to wiki, the Thai plant has capacity for 130,000 bikes. I imagine > the Thai plant makes some sub-assemblies for the UK and maybe vice versa. It would be interesting to know just how much percentage wise of their current bikes is truly sourced and made in the UK, rather than just assembled here. > If you read the press, the main reason Bloor has opened up in Thailand is > to gain access to India as they have a free trade agreement, so he can > avoid the high import duty. Let's hope so, eh... -- JackH
From: wessie on 23 Jan 2010 18:01 JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:5debb86c-6583-4a42-a198-2e0bdfa24f3c(a)l30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com: > On 23 Jan, 22:37, wessie <putmynameh...(a)tesco.net> wrote: >> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote >> innews:4b4884e8-d433-470c-b935-e6602dea8ebe(a)h2g2000yqj.googlegroups.co >> m: >> >> > Ok... so any idea what percentage of production was shifted abroad? >> >> Net. None. According to that Times article they make 46,000 bikes in >> the UK and employ 1200 people, which is more than ever. At the time >> of the fire the UK plant employed 650. >> >> According to wiki, the Thai plant has capacity for 130,000 bikes. I >> imagine the Thai plant makes some sub-assemblies for the UK and maybe >> vice versa. > > It would be interesting to know just how much percentage wise of their > current bikes is truly sourced and made in the UK, rather than just > assembled here. > IDGAF. He employs 1200 directly in his factory and countless others are employed in the UK by dealers and suppliers. As Digby Jones says, Bloor even lives in the UK and pays tax to HMRC. It's a business to be admired rather than knocked for buying components from recognised specialists such as Showa & Nissin. >> If you read the press, the main reason Bloor has opened up in >> Thailand is to gain access to India as they have a free trade >> agreement, so he can avoid the high import duty. > > Let's hope so, eh... > The trend in the motor industry is to move manufacturing closer to the market. Hence Jap car makers do well in the US & EU and Kawasaki are struggling in Europe. The risk for Hinkley is that production for the bikes they make for the US market will be moved to the US, especially as a factory in Milwaukee is likely to be empty fairly soon. -- wessie at tesco dot net BMW R1150GS
From: steve auvache on 23 Jan 2010 18:12 In article <Xns9D09EA23DC45Cwtymmmsas(a)188.40.43.213>, wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> writes > >The trend in the motor industry is to move manufacturing closer to the >market. Hence Jap car makers do well in the US & EU and Kawasaki are >struggling in Europe. The risk for Hinkley is that production for the bikes >they make for the US market will be moved to the US, especially as a >factory in Milwaukee is likely to be empty fairly soon. Sounds like a perfect investment opportunity for a firm like Royal Bank of Scotland. -- steve auvache
From: The Older Gentleman on 23 Jan 2010 18:42
JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Not Hungary. > > Ok... so any idea what percentage of production was shifted abroad? The Bonnies are built in Thailand, for sure. Dunno what else. Lozzo's posted the details elsewhere in this thread. > > > And your post says they did this *before* the fire, which isn't true. > > It was on the cards before the fire. Well, they were considering it, but *they hadn't done it*, which is what you said. All production was UK at the time of the fire. All. > > Strange that... ;-) To be honest, I don't GAF whether they bikes are built in the UK, Thailand or the Moon as long as they're good. The money comes to this country, which is really all that matters. The design, engineering, R&D etc is all British. If they want to pay a few Thais instead of Brummies to bolt the bits together, fine. ISTR Dyson got similar flak when he started building his vacuum cleaners in the Far East. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com |