From: El Guerrero del Interfaz on
On Mar 2, 2:07 pm, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> "El Guerrero del Interfaz" <el.guerrero.del.inter...(a)gmail.com> wrote
> [    Well, the title says it all. I'm doubting between these 2 bikes.
> [ I've never had one of either although I got a Sportster a few bikes
> [ ago. Now I ride a BMW R1150RT solo and a 1500 Goldwing with an Héchard
> [ side. The reason of the change is that the Beemer is not comfortable
> [ enough for my wife. ....
>
> I'd go with the H-D only because of the easy availability of parts, service
> and accessories.
>
Thanks for your advice.

> [   And I've already considered and discarded other touring options
> [ like another BMW, Honda, Kawa, Yamaha, Triumph and so on.
>
> But have you considered a new wife?

Lol...

That's not an option. They don't make them like this anymore. ;-)

> If your R1150RT isn't satisfactory for
> her, there is a possibility that nothing will be.

The problem of the Beemer is mainly the seat. Including shape,
height, surroundings and so on.

And also that a R1150RT, although a touring bike, is also able to
corner quite well (especially with RR tyre on front like I love to
use) and so resisting to curves is a matter of willpower, of which I
lack totally. While with something like an Electra or a Vision the
bike sets the pace :-P


Thanks, bye and lots of bugs like we say round here.


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El Guerrero del Interfaz
From: El Guerrero del Interfaz on
On Mar 2, 2:05 pm, Sean_Q_ <no.s...(a)no.spam> wrote:

> Seems to me the Victory is more equivalent to HD's Softail
> than the FLH versions. That includes the touring model...http://bikerholic.com/2008/10/10/victory-motorcycles-announce-euro-ex...
> ...which I've seen once up close. It has limited storage
> space and its passenger accommodations don't look as
> comfortable as an Ultra.
>
Thanks for the info and the link.

The problem is that there is no bike available to see and test now
in Spain. I've read some comparative in mags but I trust more real
users than journalists. In the specs, the storage of the Vision is a
bit larger than the HD (side bags + top trunk) but, as I know from
Corbin's beetle bags, liters is not the only thing that matter.

What do you mean that the Victory is more equivalent to a Softail?
Some of my buddies have Softails (Night Train, Fat Boy, Crossbones)
and they are not definitively the kind of bike I'm looking for
(although I'd go for a Crossbones if I rode alone ;-).

> SQ

Thanks and bye.

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El Guerrero del Interfaz
From: CS on
I've tried them both. Very comfortable, at least from a rider's point of
view.

I doubt you'd go wrong with either, but if you get a Victory against your
wife's advice, every time something goes sideways you'll get an additional
lecture/mocking/pointing and laughing. May not sound like a big deal now,
but if you get aggravated over these thing, the extra nonsense might not be
worth it. heh

The Victory may be more reliable, however, if it takes days/weeks/months to
get a part, vs a minute/hour/day to get a Harley part, I'd go with the
Harley. This goes double if you and your friends are already familiar with
them.

The one thing I really hate about the Victory touring models is the crappy
storage. Those saddlebags look huge, but once you open them there's just a
little slot in the middle of a bunch of pretty bodywork. It seems they were
more concerned with retro-futuristic Flash Gordon Air Cycle looks than
storage space. The numbers may be on Victory's side, but getting stuff in
and out looks like a chore.

You'll also have a lot more goodies you can add to a Harley. Lots and lots
more. I've seen very little offered for the Vision.

CS

From: Sean_Q_ on
El Guerrero del Interfaz wrote:

> What do you mean that the Victory is more equivalent to a Softail?

Last time I was up close to a Victory (at a dealership)
it seemed as though the frame and suspension system was
set up similar to a Softail. Note the absence of visible
rear shocks:

http://www.carmanicure.com/images/Cars/victory-motorcycle.jpg

If your lady didn't think the Beemer or the GW was comfortable
enough then you'd better get her Queen Isabella's coronation
coach drawn by a team of white Lipizzaner horses.

SQ
From: Mark Olson on
Sean_Q_ wrote:

> If your lady didn't think the Beemer or the GW was comfortable
> enough then you'd better get her Queen Isabella's coronation
> coach drawn by a team of white Lipizzaner horses.

She won't like that- the horses are far too jumpy.

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