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From: ogden on 17 Dec 2009 10:39 Krusty wrote: > Champ wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:33:15 -0000, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: > > > > >> 29p at amazon. > > > > > > *bzzt* > > > > > > Minimum price for a digital audio track to be eligible for the > > > chart is 40p. > > > > Oh. > > > > There was something on the Facebook group saying the Amazon 29p > > downloads were eligible. > > I believe they are, there was supposedly something on Amazon's site > about it. Reference? > The 40p relates to a 'different' price, not the price punters > pay. Sounds unlikely. "Digital Minimum Dealer Price £0.40p : Only tracks with a minimum PPD of 40 pence or more shall be eligible for the Official Singles Chart. In the event that a record company has an alternative business model for the sale of downloads (i.e., one not based on a published dealer price), the price charged to the online digital retailer should not be less than 32 pence per track. OCC will monitor sales to ensure they are 'genuine sales'. Where OCC judges sales not to be genuine, they may be excluded from the chart at OCC's absolute discretion" (from the pdf I linked to previously) If Amazon are selling at a loss then it might be eligible, but even then I wouldn't believe it without seeing a statement from the horse's mouth. -- ogden
From: ogden on 17 Dec 2009 10:41 Champ wrote: > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:33:15 -0000, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: > > >> 29p at amazon. > > > >*bzzt* > > > >Minimum price for a digital audio track to be eligible for the chart is > >40p. > > Oh. > > There was something on the Facebook group saying the Amazon 29p > downloads were eligible. Oh, right. Well, if somebody on Facebook says it's so then it must be, regardless of what the chart compilers themselves have in their published rules. -- ogden
From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on 17 Dec 2009 10:46 Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lady Nina <spamtrap2(a)ntlworld.com> typed >On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:30:06 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel ><wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote: > >>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ >><news(a)champ.org.uk> typed >>>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:53:49 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel >>><wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote: >>> >>>>>>Let's just agree that you're wrong, OK? >>> >>>>>Isn't it your turn? >>> >>>>No, I'm pretty sure it's you for all of December. Hang on, I'll check >>>>with F... >>> >>>I'll get Mrs WUN to confirm... >> >>What we have here, is a Mexican stand-off. > >You're both in the wrong and you know it. Now go make amends in some >way. Well, I think Champ and I may have finally found a point of agreement here! -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" can you see the light of need shinin' in my eye?
From: ogden on 17 Dec 2009 10:48 Lady Nina wrote: > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:33:15 -0000, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: > > >Lady Nina wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:50:56 -0000, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> 29p at amazon. > > > >*bzzt* > > > >Minimum price for a digital audio track to be eligible for the chart is > >40p. > > > >http://www.theofficialcharts.com/docs/Official%20UK%20Singles%20Chart% > >20Rules%20August%202009.pdf, page 5, section 3.0.i > > > >The link somebody provided earlier to a money saving tips site led to > >another obscure site that claimed to be selling chart-eligible downloads > >for under 40p. Which seems odd, given the rules referenced above. > > Amazon downloads count, I checked. But I'm in the mood to download it > again anyway. Finally found a vaguely authoritative reference: Amazon.co.uk Music Team says: We can confirm that sales of MP3s from Amazon.co.uk, including "The Climb" by Joe McElderry and "Killing in the Name" by Rage Against The Machine, count towards the Official UK Charts. http://www.amazon.co.uk/tag/mp3/forum?cdThread=Tx3U7MN4WDHUQUA Must be a loss-leader. -- ogden
From: Pete Fisher on 17 Dec 2009 10:50
In communiqu� <MPG.2594630b2d1f718b989cb1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> cast forth these pearls of wisdom >Lady Nina wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:33:15 -0000, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: >> >> >Lady Nina wrote: >> >> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:50:56 -0000, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 29p at amazon. >> > >> >*bzzt* >> > >> >Minimum price for a digital audio track to be eligible for the chart is >> >40p. >> > >> >http://www.theofficialcharts.com/docs/Official%20UK%20Singles%20Chart% >> >20Rules%20August%202009.pdf, page 5, section 3.0.i >> > >> >The link somebody provided earlier to a money saving tips site led to >> >another obscure site that claimed to be selling chart-eligible downloads >> >for under 40p. Which seems odd, given the rules referenced above. >> >> Amazon downloads count, I checked. But I'm in the mood to download it >> again anyway. > >Finally found a vaguely authoritative reference: > >Amazon.co.uk Music Team says: >We can confirm that sales of MP3s from Amazon.co.uk, including "The >Climb" by Joe McElderry and "Killing in the Name" by Rage Against The >Machine, count towards the Official UK Charts. > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/tag/mp3/forum?cdThread=Tx3U7MN4WDHUQUA > >Must be a loss-leader. > <Resists Mandy Rice Davies quote> -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk | | Voxan Roadster Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |