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From: Mark Olson on 13 May 2010 06:35 Thomas wrote: > I'm sitting Bolzano, Italy, right now. Some call it Bozen. This place > is incredible. _Every place_ (streets, neighborhoods, etc,) has 2 > names, German and Italian. You can ask someone where a place is, and > if you don't ask in the language they're familiar with, they won't > know. I don't know how they manage, but nobody seems to care. Since > San Diego is so close to the border, I've always accepted that many > people here speak Spanish. No biggie. Now, if you want to talk about > the difference between English and American... Been through the Stelvio Pass yet? Sounds like Arco, which is pretty close by, where my friend and I stayed on our brief weekend motorcycle tour during a business trip in '07. Coming out to our bikes on Sunday morning we saw a procession of about a half-dozen folks in fancy Tyrolean-style dress. I'm officially jealous now.
From: wessie on 13 May 2010 08:44 Mark Olson <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in news:rL2dnQ3RdtBzSHbWnZ2dnUVZ_usAAAAA(a)posted.visi: > Thomas wrote: > >> I'm sitting Bolzano, Italy, right now. Some call it Bozen. This place >> is incredible. _Every place_ (streets, neighborhoods, etc,) has 2 >> names, German and Italian. You can ask someone where a place is, and >> if you don't ask in the language they're familiar with, they won't >> know. I don't know how they manage, but nobody seems to care. Since >> San Diego is so close to the border, I've always accepted that many >> people here speak Spanish. No biggie. Now, if you want to talk about >> the difference between English and American... > > Been through the Stelvio Pass yet? > > Sounds like Arco, which is pretty close by, where my friend and I > stayed on our brief weekend motorcycle tour during a business trip > in '07. Coming out to our bikes on Sunday morning we saw a > procession of about a half-dozen folks in fancy Tyrolean-style dress. > > I'm officially jealous now. > So am I. Bolzano would be a fabulous place to live. Tyrol to the north, Dolomites east & west & my favourite place in Italy, Lake Garda, a few km south. -- wessie at tesco dot net BMW R1150GS
From: Hog on 13 May 2010 18:30 Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 11, 3:49 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> Thomas wrote: >>> On May 10, 10:36 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>> doetnietcomputeren wrote: >>>>> On 2010-05-10 12:25:29 +0200, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> >>>>> said: >>>>>>>> Other US citied I've liked are Denver & Phoenix. >> >>>>>>> I like Denver, haven't seen enough of Phoenix to form an >>>>>>> opinion. >> >>>>>>> San Diego is a great place. >> >>>>>> Not been there but it is reputed to have "The Perfect Climate". >>>>>> That may be TM and not necessarily true. >> >>>>> Not far off. The place I lived (93012) was just inland enough and >>>>> surrounded by sufficient mountains to ward off the wind, rain and >>>>> extreme heat and give a decent constant temperate climate. I'd >>>>> take that climate again in a heartbeat. >> >>>> Yeabut what about the mexican problem >> >>> There is no Mexican problem, unless you're a nationalistic >>> extremist. There is debate about whether illegals are an economic >>> drain or benefit. It's a tossup. Crime isn't much of an issue. >> >> The problem as observed was illegal immigration and the Mayor >> offering a Sanctuary. It seems. >> >> If you think that unfettered uncontrolled immigration is a good idea >> then you are an idiot. Remind us of your unemployment rate and your >> health service capability to deal with the legal population? > > Ah, nothing like a bit of hyperbole. San Diego and California have > huge problems, but little of it has to do with any Mexicans who are > here, legally or not. Most of our local problems stem from a prior > city council who decided to fund an outrageous city employee pension > fund with non-existent money. The mayor's stance is a complete non- > issue. Who pays attention to the words any politician speaks? He > shares power with the city council and any laws enacted need broad > approval. Immigration is a national issue. The effect on us locally is > that the feds arrest illegals and put them in local jails, forcing the > locals to pay. If they're going to incarcerate them, the federal > government should pay. BTW, one of the major state problems is the > prison guard union, who demand huge salaries, and ...well, that gets > into issues that are better left for when I don't have to pay for I- > net access by the minute. I just can't see that a sea of undocumented immigrants is good for any country. I expect it leads to plenty of abuse of the labour too. The way employers hark on about how it must be allowed to continue makes me deeply suspicious. >> Keeping a single operational language would be handy too. > > I'm sitting Bolzano, Italy, right now. Some call it Bozen. This place > is incredible. _Every place_ (streets, neighborhoods, etc,) has 2 > names, German and Italian. You can ask someone where a place is, and > if you don't ask in the language they're familiar with, they won't > know. I don't know how they manage, but nobody seems to care. Since > San Diego is so close to the border, I've always accepted that many > people here speak Spanish. No biggie. Now, if you want to talk about > the difference between English and American... As Brits we don't tolerate folk who can't talk to us in English terrible well. -- Hog
From: Thomas on 14 May 2010 05:26 On May 13, 3:35 am, Mark Olson <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> wrote: > Thomas wrote: > > I'm sitting Bolzano, Italy, right now. Some call it Bozen. This place > > is incredible. _Every place_ (streets, neighborhoods, etc,) has 2 > > names, German and Italian. You can ask someone where a place is, and > > if you don't ask in the language they're familiar with, they won't > > know. I don't know how they manage, but nobody seems to care. Since > > San Diego is so close to the border, I've always accepted that many > > people here speak Spanish. No biggie. Now, if you want to talk about > > the difference between English and American... > > Been through the Stelvio Pass yet? > > Sounds like Arco, which is pretty close by, where my friend and I > stayed on our brief weekend motorcycle tour during a business trip > in '07. Coming out to our bikes on Sunday morning we saw a > procession of about a half-dozen folks in fancy Tyrolean-style dress. > > I'm officially jealous now. The Stelvio is still closed, as are a bunch of the higher passes. I skipped Andermatt because so many of the best passes around there are closed. I've spent two nights here in Bolzano, and it's officially on my favorite places list. I did Penser Joch yesterday, and it was freakin amazing. Some like the upper heights of the high passes, but I'm more fond of the lower one lane roads that swoop and swerve through farmland on their way to the switchbacks up high. I'll probably do 3 or 4 2000 meter passes today on my way East and South. The R1200GS is a great bike. It does everything I ask of it and more. Between the roads and the bike, I feel I'm a better rider every day. The bike handles so much better than the Honda STs. The ST used to balk at tight hairpins, the GS loves to dive into them.
From: vulgarandmischevious on 14 May 2010 16:18
Ben <ben(a)bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote: >On Sun, 09 May 2010 14:39:42 -0600, vulgarandmischevious ><vulgarandmischevious(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>I believe it works both ways. Handy, because I have a list of my >>own... > >Doesn't everyone? laminated |