From: Bob Mann on
Steve Irving <sdirv(a)NOSPAMq.com> wrote in news:4afb5ea6$1(a)127.0.0.1:

> Would you mind explaining to me what the O2 sensor on the bike does
> now that the readings in the exhaust are WAY out of range because the
> cat is gone, and with readings out of range how does the ECM
> compensate the EFI????
>

Tyhe O2 sensors are in front of the cat so they may or may not be affected.
Trouble is that the only way to find out now is to dyno it.
I would have changed the entire system before butchering the cat.
Bub and Rinehart are both making 2010 systems for the tourers anhd I expect
V&H are too.

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Bob Mann

Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: Bob Mann on
c <smalltalkingchicken(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:0630c562-be1d-4f02-b433-
000d4ed653c4(a)e34g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:

> the dealer said supertrapp's sounded good ... the internet said they
> sounded good ... i've seen people with supertrapps and they were
> good ... something about the 2010's or about these particular
> supertrapp's ("SE" - a nod to when they were screamin eagle II, but
> now the "SE" is "super elite" or some BS) just isn't working

They're okay and a big omprovement on stock and previous SE pipes.
>
> i trusted the dealer (point and laugh, boys and girls!), but in my own
> defense it doesn't make sense that they'd sell me a $400 set of pipes
> that were shitty when there are 2 other kinds of $400 pipes that
> aren't shitty ... that'd be a whole other level of ignorance/
> malice ... if anything i doubt they understood the differences in 2010
> slipons, and i think it's innocent

The SE pipes are less and the other pipes are more.
We got a set of those in a tried them out.
We've done the same with many other mufflers and systems.
>
> whether they'll help me out now or tell me to bend over, heh, i'm not
> going to bother hoping for the former
>

They'll help you as long as you're spending $$$.

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Bob Mann

Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: Bob Mann on
nobody #1 <rnddmauck(a)comcast.net> wrote in
news:AIydnaUaPOZOwmbXnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d(a)giganews.com:

>
>
> Oooohh I'm not removin' anything. I was thinkin' it could have a cat
> because of the awful smellin' exhaust which has never smelled like
> conventional exhaust. When it's super cold out it'll cloud out my
> front yard with steam after it runs for a about thirty seconds. What
> 0-2 sensor bungs? After cat?
>
>
> nobody #1
>

The new O2 sensor bungs are right in front of the combined pipe, one in
each header.
You can't retrofit a 2009 head pipe because of those bungs.
Several companies are now making pipes with dual bungs to fit 09s and 10s.
Means we get stuck with more obsolete pipes too.

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Bob Mann

Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: Greasy Rider on
c wrote:

> How can I get that sound?

I've been hearing metric riders say almost the same thing for years.


Greasy
From: Bob Mann on
Steve Irving <sdirv(a)NOSPAMq.com> wrote in news:4afb861b$1(a)127.0.0.1:

>
> I would have ridden the bike a while, hung around with other riders,
> listened to their bikes, and then when I found something I liked I'd
> hit the guy who owned the bike up with questions about what he had and
> what he'd done.
>
> Not like most bike guys are shy about telling you about what they've
> done to their bikes.......<sfsf>

It's true. Let a guy know you like what he's done and you'll have trouble
getting away from him.
>
> Of course in my case......
>
>
> When I traded it in on my Ultra, figured I'd do the same thing,
> ride/listen, I'm still doing that after 5 years. I found that I didn't
> care that the exhaust was quiet. Loud or semi-loud pipes didn't
> increase my happy when I was riding it. Also found that I REALLY like
> listening to music and/or talk radio while I ride, seems like the
> music always seems to fit the ride......

I like that too. My pipes can be loud but I don't think they're
obnoxious.
Maybe people who ride with me might have other ideas though.
I chose mine based on the sound from a bike from several months earlier.
I had been going to use Rineharts but someone else took the last set we
had in stock so I thought about it before ordering more in and picked the
Crushers.
They have a deep rumbly sound without the hollow crackle. They are also
fairly quiet when cruising so I can hear the stereo.
>
> On the PBR Tour, seemed like every time we pulled out of a parking
> lot, or onto a highway the radio would start playing the Beatle's
> "Magical Mystery Tour", which I thought was just about right <sfsf>.
>
It's coming to take you away, take you away.


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Bob Mann

Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
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