2010 SuperTrapp SE Slip-On Mufflers
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From: c on 12 Nov 2009 10:33 On Nov 11, 10:03 pm, Steve Irving <sd...(a)NOSPAMq.com> wrote: > c wrote: > > On Nov 11, 8:02 pm, Steve Irving <sd...(a)NOSPAMq.com> wrote: > >> c wrote: > > >>> would you mind explaining how drilling the cat is 'butchering' the > >>> bike? > >> Well...... > > >> The bike was engineered to flow a certain amount of air through it, with the cat > >> in the system. The cat is now gone, so that flow, with it's back pressures is > >> now gone. > > > i understand what you're saying, but the many 09 CVO guys agree that > > the cat in the header was *not* designed for; it was thrown in to meet > > EPA req's but the bike was designed w/o and it's better w/o > > What do those guys do for a living, what are their qualifications????? So, is > your '09 CVO guy a dentist who's been riding for a year and wears creased chaps??? > fair point: the hivemind, despite its size, might not have any qualification to evaluate the post-cat-drilling performance > I'd Shirley bet the cat wasn't just "thrown in" the bike at the last moment. > Engineering and testing was done well ahead of time. > clearly my description was oversimplistic to the point of inaccuracy, but, what do you think is really going on? you think the moco let their bikes be neutered by the EPA, or do you think they designed around the upcoming EPA req's and made a bike that sounds/performs like it should, regardless of the EPA req's? or do you think it's something else? i don't know for sure, but i DO know they want to sell you more parts, i know they don't get it right the first time, and i know they typically sell to older men i imagine, as a practical matter, it's most likely they saw what the negative effects were on adding the cat to their bikes, saw it wouldn't hurt very much, and let it ride that sounds much more likely than them going out of their way to design a whole new exhaust system to handle the stresses of the catalytic converter i'm just saying the 2010's are most likely just 2009 systems with a cat thrown in -- drilling it out means i have an 09-ish exhaust system, albeit the 02 bungs are placed differently you disagree, you believe something else ... fine there's nothing to be done about it now, and cat or no cat has no affect on the sound, so let's just get on with it, shall we? all i want is to change the type of sound by altering the baffles and adding a fuel system - not increase volume - and straight, full-length baffles aren't doing it do you know if chambered baffles would give a more throaty sound? what about half-length straights? what about a different endcap (mine have a round hole, so i'm assuming not, unless it's the diameter that would help)? these are the only relevant questions in this thread
From: c on 12 Nov 2009 10:35 On Nov 11, 10:18 pm, Bob Mann <bobm...(a)mtsremove.net> wrote: > Tyhe O2 sensors are in front of the cat so they may or may not be affected. > Trouble is that the only way to find out now is to dyno it. > I would have changed the entire system before butchering the cat. > Bub and Rinehart are both making 2010 systems for the tourers anhd I expect > V&H are too. > > -- > Bob Mann i'm going to get a dyno tune done within the next few weeks ... for superstitious reasons, i'm waiting until i pass the 1k mark i presume it'd be easy to find a stock 2010 header in a RKC w/ a stage II kit w/ supertrapp slip on mufflers - he and i can compare numbers i will gladly post back any results we find
From: c on 12 Nov 2009 10:50 On Nov 12, 8:15 am, Greasy Rider <greasyri...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > c wrote: > > How can I get that sound? > > I've been hearing metric riders say almost the same thing for years. > > Greasy cruel, isn't it? not even a harley can live up to Harley
From: Steve Paul on 12 Nov 2009 11:41 c wrote: > > all i want is to change the type of sound by altering the baffles and > adding a fuel system - not increase volume - and straight, full-length > baffles aren't doing it > When are you going to get it? First off, this is a group of misfits with a strong independent streak who like to meet up with other misfits IRL a couple of times or more a year, while out for a 1200 to 8000 mile ride. You're free to show up, when invited, on whatever the hell you like to ride, in whatever state of disrepair or modification you can manage, or in a cage, or on a moped, if you have to. Not everyone rides a Harley here, although they may wish they did, or may have ridden one in the past. Second, no one here (on the internet) is able, or even willing, to hold your hand and guide you to the perfect sound solution. You want advice on hopping up your motor, that's a little different. Show up at an IRL someday, crack open a beer, and you'll find out to get that sound, if you hear something you like. Last time it needs to be said. Have a drink on me. -- Steve Paul EKIII, BS284 '93 FXRS-C "Mule" No salt, No plans
From: AH#104 on 12 Nov 2009 11:53
c from Gmail sed: >you replied to yourself to wish me ill >i pretty much want to point this out as the reason i'm out I pretty much laugh at people that need to post *why* they're leaving. Think about it. Why? Just leave... (not asking *you* to leave), but why the need to aggrandize it, or worse yet to blame someone? Whhaaa mommy, that person was mean to me... The_Rhetorical_ASSHOLE#104 Len. |