BRIAN WALKER AND HIS FANTASIES
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From: Brian Walker on 16 Jun 2007 00:53 On Jun 15, 10:28 pm, Calgary <actual.rider_remove_the_obvio...(a)telus.net> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:16:34 -0700, Brian Walker > > <shadowride...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >I'll let you know what the final bill on all this comes to. If you > >have so much money that you can act this way and let a consigned > >motorcycle get into this state, I'll be more than happy to let you put > >that money back into this bike and repair what your shop let happen. > > You know for what it is worth, my Venture was on consignment at a > Dealer when I bought it a few years back. The battery was dead when I > wanted to seriously check it out. I wasn't too concerned about it. > Long story, short I ended up buying the bike and the dealer provided a > new battery, no charge to either me or the bike's owner, who I have > gotten to know quite well over the past couple of years. > > So that's good, but unknown to me at the time, the Dealer had stripped > a few parts off the bike like the saddlebag inserts and the trailer > hitch. Of course, since the previous owner and I have become friends, > he is aware of the missing pieces and has had a chat with the Dealer. > > All were happy at the time. > > What has this got to do with your problem, well nothin I guess, but I > felt like passing it along anyway. Thanks, but that's not the only issue here. The bike was found sitting on Mike's back patio, it was filthy nasty dirty. The bike had the side panel broke on it and was hanging off the back. AND there's the issue of the battery being dead. The bike wasn't given to Mike in that state and I didn't appreciate my motorcycle being treated in such a way as that. As far as I'm concerned, and most would agree, the condition of the motorcycle was not in a "for sale" condition. This bike reminded me of picking up a bike from a salvage yard. Having to use a trailer to get it home, this probably aided this view. Looking at the dirty condition and parts broken and removed to get it home helped too. For the record, and before everyone gets carried away at all this "offer to make it right", it wasn't my idea to trailer this bike. It was Mike's wife that suggested I'd need to go get a trailer. I was prepared to ride the motorcycle and had my gear with me to do just that. Since Renegade is just right around the corner, it took WAY more time to go home, get the trailer, go back and load the motorcycle on it than it would've been to just get on the motorcycle and ride it home. Now, what Mike isn't explaining is what set me off to get an "attitude". It would seem if I was going to have an "attitude" and all I would've had the trailer with me when I showed up. Instead, I made two trips to Mike's shop. Mike has done all this talking it up in a newsgroup about me personally, he's admitted the bike had a dead battery, admitted the bike was dirty, admitted the side panel was broke....yet all he can scream about is personal attacks to me. If I'm lying at having "fantasies" like he's claiming, why can't he dispute any of these things? I said it straight and he knows it. Did I get pissed off, yep....I sure did. Anyone who owns a motorcycle would too. Did I raise my voice, yep.....I sure did. Did I threaten Mike? Nope. Mike was the one who did the threatening. I for one certainly hope nothing happens to me, my property or anything around me. I'd hate to have Mike accused of wrong-doing because he went through his business' information that he keeps on his customers and did a publicdata search on me....and who knows who else.
From: Brian Walker on 16 Jun 2007 01:55 On Jun 15, 7:37 pm, "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > hmmm.. If that had been my motorcycle your guys screwed up, I'd > have been so much more abusive to your employees, that you'd > have considered Brian a welcome sight.. > > I'm sure that you might work this out with Brian.. that's as it should be.. > As a business owner, that is your responsibility.. When that man > showed up in your business.. found his motorcycle in the shape it > was in.. he had every right to be offended and upset.. He probably > didn't go as far as many of us would have done.. That's no lie! I didn't go NEAR as wild as I've seen others do at other dealerships for alot less than what Mike and his shop did. > The quality of your business and the ability of your employees/techs > is your business and not mine or Brians'.. OUR reactions to your > employees actions have to be considered by YOU, as the owner.. > > We are your customers and your business depends on our rec- > ommendations or our criticism.. hmmm.. Co-incidentally.. you have > not even enquired why you've never gotten any major technical bus- > iness from me.. Valve adjustment.. Belt Conversion.. Carburetor > rebuild and a clutch rebuild.. All that work was done on my motor- > cycle in the past year and your shop had a shot at it.. The quality of Renegade is reflective to what condition my motorcycle was given back to me in, and them thinking that's "normal" and "good condition". > I'd expect that you'd be contacting Brian to resolve his issue with > your Renegade Motorcycles.. As far as my own relationship with > Renegade.. you will have to earn my business.. Granted.. that will > be uphill .. > > There are many on this newsgroup who will be watching to see how > you will do that.. > > Bill Walker > Irving I hope many in this newsgroup *do* pay attention.
From: Wakko on 16 Jun 2007 07:01 "Mike" <mgldwng(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:1181961836.137342.81630(a)w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com > Bill, please quit threatening me. You sound hollow. All I asked of Ed > was to let me know who feels slighted and I will attempt to fix the > problem. Doesn't Ed know Brian? I hear Brian feels slighted. Glad to hear you will attempt to fix the problem. All it takes is time and money. -- "Wakko" NTXNS TOMKAT SENS PHS BS#257 '06 FLHTCUSE "Ultra Chicken" '03 FLSTSI "BlingBling"
From: Brian Walker on 16 Jun 2007 12:01 On Jun 16, 10:23 am, Mike <mgld...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > My phone has been ringing off the wall with people informing me of how > you and Brian go looking for trouble. I've got your number. You might > be surprised at the number of people who called and told me how you > and Brian try to make a living screwing people. I am > amazed.............. You might want to keep their information handy and have them with you when you show up to court on this one. I asked you to make this situation right. I didn't ask you to buy the bike. I asked you to make it right. Who's screwing who? Who was paid to maintain and sell a motorcycle? Who did neither? I've overlooked that the bike didn't sell. That's not in your control. Maintaining the motorcycle *WAS* in your control. Mike, you're out of your mind nuts. As a business owner, you use the information provided by customers to have business transactions to search their personal information on publicdata? Then you jump into a newsgroup and make wild accusations about "knowing the judge very well, if you know what I mean"? No Mike, I don't know what you mean. I know you're now accusing a customer of yours who's had their motorcycle damaged in your shop of screwing you....even though all I've asked for was you to repair the damage. If anyone does any business with you after all this is over, they'd have to have just fallen out into Mesquite and never heard of you before. To keep you from screaming about how I won't take you up on your "offer", I'll take you up on it. It's not what I asked for but since you want to be a jerk and all.... Let me know when you have the $2000 sack of cash handy and I'll bring the motorcycle to you with the "clear title". And yes, I have clear clean title on all my motorcycles. I don't finance motorcycles and don't buy junk. After what you've shown on this deal in the past couple days....and especially the past 24 hours, I won't accept a check, money order, cashier's check or even paypal from you.
From: Vic on 16 Jun 2007 12:19
"Bill Walker" > > You and I both know why you are making the offer to do the right thing > after screwing up the man's motorcycle.. Even while making the so called > offer.. you are leaving yourself caveats and ways to weasel.. all the time > you are slinging insults to me and to Brian.. The question of clear titles > and such .. should have been resolved before you took that motorcycle > on consignment.. otherwise.. you might have been a party to peddling > stolen or liened merchandise.. That brings into question.. those other > salvage type motorcycle you've got in front of your business.. hmmm. > Mesquite police dept. might be interested in running title checks on > everything out there, you s'pose ? > You obviouslly have no idea how a consignment works, do you? The bike remains the property of the owner untill an offer is excepted. As the owner, it's Brians responsibility to furnish the required documentation at the time of the sale. If the documentation is not presented, or if there's a lien on the bike, it's the seller's responsibility to clear it. No clear title, no documentation, no sale, but the dealer has completed his end of the bargin and is intitled to the agreed upon fee between him and the seller. The offer Mike has made eliminates Brian from the final sale to a customer, and in doing so requires the dealer to have all the documentation in hand, and in order, before he presents it as his property to the public. You can make all the insinuations you want about this dealer, Bill. You may have yourself convinced that his so called caveats were designed to screw your little Brian. To those of us who actually know how a consignment works, what the dealer is doing is making sure he's the proper paperwork in hand to sell the bike when the time comes. He could care less when the bike still belonged to Brian, the proper documentation was Brians responsibility to produce in order to complete the sale. You're just taking one more opportunity to sling as much mud as you posibly can at some one who's just made a very good offer. It was an excellent attempt though, lol. > You surely don't have to "rid yourself" of me, dude.. I haven't got a > damned thing invested in your two bit operation over there and there's > very little chance that those idiots working for you will ever put a wrench > on my motorcycles.. When it takes three of you nitwits to try and figure > out how to remove a clutch case cover to rebuild clutches on a basic > V-Twin.. that's evidence enough to me, that you aren't qualified.. > > Yeah.. I'd be getting that motorcycle paid for, as quickly as possible > and then say no more about it.. You and your people fucked it up, Mike.. > Take care of it.. I think he did just take care of it when he offered to buy the bike, Bill, lol. Even that offer hasn't silenced you. Why don't you enlighten us, Bill, and tell us what you think the dealer should do to shut you up? Vic |