From: Champ on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:03:56 +0000 (UTC), "Krusty"
<dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:42:06 +0100, Jim <nul(a)0.0.0.0> wrote:
>>
>> > He's resigned
>> >
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8672859.stm
>>
>> With luck Clegg has decided that he doesn't like the way Dave kisses,
>> and will now show a bit of leg to the Labour boys.

>Giving us a government made up of what - 5 or 6 different parties - &
>billions more in debt thanks to the bribes they'll have to pay to the
>Scottish, Welsh & Irish parties. Wonderful.

I don't think so. Alex Salmond has already said he'd support a
Lib-Lab gov. The SNP and Plaid Cymru are both left of centre, and
would rather support such a government than see the tories in office.

Number explained quite nicely at the bottom of this blog entry by Nick
Robinson [1]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2010/05/there_is_an_alt.html

[1] who appears to have become the target of a #fuckoffrobinson trend
on twitter over his poor grasp of the constitution and his occasional
bias towards the tories [2]
[2] well, he is a former chairman of the Yound Conservatives
--
Champ
We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo
neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: Hog on
Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 10 May 2010 18:04:28 +0100, "Hog"
> <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Champ wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:42:06 +0100, Jim <nul(a)0.0.0.0> wrote:
>>>
>>>> He's resigned
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8672859.stm
>>>
>>> With luck Clegg has decided that he doesn't like the way Dave
>>> kisses, and will now show a bit of leg to the Labour boys.
>>
>> I can't believe you are daft enough to think it's a good thing.
>
> I've sadly had to conclude that you're daft enough to believe a fair
> percentage of the things you post on here.

Well I guess you don't mind the thought of a brief alliance followed by 12
years in the cold.

>> At least LD and Tories balance each other somewhat
>
> Might as well have a coalition between the Communist Party of GB and
> the BNP, then.

Better than that. Conservatives and Labour. With Brown gone shirly they can
reach agreement. Being so similar post Thatcher.

--
Hog


From: malc on
Krusty wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>>
>> I don't think so. Alex Salmond has already said he'd support a
>> Lib-Lab gov. The SNP and Plaid Cymru are both left of centre, and
>> would rather support such a government than see the tories in office.
>>
>> Number explained quite nicely at the bottom of this blog entry by
>> Nick Robinson [1]
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2010/05/there_is_an_alt.html
>
> From your link - "The nationalist parties would, of course, extract
> financial and political concessions from Westminster". The figures
> discussed on the news on Friday were in the billions.

What I don't quite understand is why people think a coalition and/or PR is
such a bad thing. It works for the Germans among others.

--
Malc

Rusted and ropy.
Dog-eared old copy.
Vintage and classic,
or just plain Jurassic:
all words to describe me.


From: ogden on
malc wrote:
> Krusty wrote:
> > Champ wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think so. Alex Salmond has already said he'd support a
> >> Lib-Lab gov. The SNP and Plaid Cymru are both left of centre, and
> >> would rather support such a government than see the tories in office.
> >>
> >> Number explained quite nicely at the bottom of this blog entry by
> >> Nick Robinson [1]
> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2010/05/there_is_an_alt.html
> >
> > From your link - "The nationalist parties would, of course, extract
> > financial and political concessions from Westminster". The figures
> > discussed on the news on Friday were in the billions.
>
> What I don't quite understand is why people think a coalition and/or PR is
> such a bad thing. It works for the Germans among others.

Our political system is based on conflict. This is the first time since
the war that the main parliamentary parties have had to sit down and
negotiate with each other on a broad basis and they're simply not used
to it.

One problem we have is that there are three significant parties
involved. It means the two big boys are fighting over the attentions of
the the popular girl from the year below. It's like a divorcing couple
fighting over the affections of the family dog - he waves Winalot, she
offers sausages, what the dog wants is a juicy steak.

--
ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250

From: steve auvache on
In article <fdYFn.88$Lg1.45(a)newsfe17.ams2>, malc
<malwhite1(a)blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>Krusty wrote:
>> Champ wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think so. Alex Salmond has already said he'd support a
>>> Lib-Lab gov. The SNP and Plaid Cymru are both left of centre, and
>>> would rather support such a government than see the tories in office.
>>>
>>> Number explained quite nicely at the bottom of this blog entry by
>>> Nick Robinson [1]
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2010/05/there_is_an_alt.html
>>
>> From your link - "The nationalist parties would, of course, extract
>> financial and political concessions from Westminster". The figures
>> discussed on the news on Friday were in the billions.
>
>What I don't quite understand is why people think a coalition and/or PR is
>such a bad thing.

We already have a system that relies on coalition. The two political
parties that count for anything in our system are both a coalition of
ideas and aspirations gathered from the centre ground of their
respective standpoints. Do you want your government to be broadly
leftish thinking or broadly right is the coalition choice already on
offer.



> It works for the Germans among others.

The only thing that works for the Germans are Turkish immigrants.

--
steve auvache
VN750 Third gear has scope.
SR250 The SpazzTrakka (Improved).