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From: Champ on 10 May 2010 16:35 On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:45 +0100, steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote: >>> >One problem we have is that there are three significant parties >>> >involved. >>> >>> No there are two and an additional bunch of opportunist louts who see a >>> not to be missed chance to push their discredited minority agendas on a >>> public who did not vote for them. >> >>Con: 36% >>Lab: 29% >>Lib: 23% >> >>Remind me, which one isn't the minority? > >At least 75% of the voting electorate did not for a party offering PR er, Steve...Labour were offering electoral reform befoe the election. -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: ogden on 10 May 2010 16:36 Champ wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2010 20:39:44 +0100, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: > > >If you want to accuse a party of obstructing a deal to suit their own > >interests, accuse the Tories. They're the ones blocking a referendum on > >PR > > And award for the most quickly out-of-date usenet post goes to... What, has something happened in the last half hour or so? -- ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250
From: Champ on 10 May 2010 16:54 On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:36:37 +0100, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: >Champ wrote: >> On Mon, 10 May 2010 20:39:44 +0100, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: >> >> >If you want to accuse a party of obstructing a deal to suit their own >> >interests, accuse the Tories. They're the ones blocking a referendum on >> >PR >> >> And award for the most quickly out-of-date usenet post goes to... >What, has something happened in the last half hour or so? The tories have offered a referendum, on AV, but that's not PR in your book, is it. I really must read up on the various PR systems, and why AV doesn't count. -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: steve auvache on 10 May 2010 16:53 In article <nergu59sk5tim98nikfllpl9pcjai58p6o(a)4ax.com>, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> writes >On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:45 +0100, steve auvache ><dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote: > >>>> >One problem we have is that there are three significant parties >>>> >involved. >>>> >>>> No there are two and an additional bunch of opportunist louts who see a >>>> not to be missed chance to push their discredited minority agendas on a >>>> public who did not vote for them. >>> >>>Con: 36% >>>Lab: 29% >>>Lib: 23% >>> >>>Remind me, which one isn't the minority? >> >>At least 75% of the voting electorate did not for a party offering PR > >er, Steve...Labour were offering electoral reform befoe the election. Yeah right. I saw that and while I accept they agree some form of reform is in order I give the claim as much credibility as that proposed by the Tories, just another wishy washy half promise to have talks about talks about the agenda for talks and hope it goes away. The reality is that it is not in the political interests of either of the two main parties to have anything other than a system which would return results very much in line with what they are now. Although it may be of more benefit to the left than the right to have some PR built in and therefore Labour may be slightly more inclined to make noises about supporting it. -- steve auvache VN750 Third gear has scope. SR250 The SpazzTrakka (Improved).
From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on 10 May 2010 17:03
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> typed >On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:45 +0100, steve auvache ><dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> wrote: > >>>> >One problem we have is that there are three significant parties >>>> >involved. >>>> >>>> No there are two and an additional bunch of opportunist louts who see a >>>> not to be missed chance to push their discredited minority agendas on a >>>> public who did not vote for them. >>> >>>Con: 36% >>>Lab: 29% >>>Lib: 23% >>> >>>Remind me, which one isn't the minority? >> >>At least 75% of the voting electorate did not for a party offering PR > >er, Steve...Labour were offering electoral reform befoe the election. 'LATEST:Lib-Lab coalition would be 'disastrous' for the country - former Labour home secretary John Reid' Bring it on! If John Reid thinks it's a bad idea, I'm all for it. Whatever it is. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" I've always been a man who's open to persuasion |