From: The Older Gentleman on 30 Mar 2010 02:15 Shaun <shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT), antonye <antonye(a)ukrm.net> > wrote: > > >Ever wondered how strong they are? > > The Japanese have and fit chains. > > They also looked at the advantages of desmodromic valve gear and > decided to fit springs. > > Ducati - finding expensive, maintenance intensive solutions to > problems that don't exist. Nice troll :-)) -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Shaun on 30 Mar 2010 03:13 On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:25:28 -0700 (PDT), antonye <antonye(a)ukrm.net> wrote: >Shaun wrote: >> antonye wrote: >> >> >Ever wondered how strong they are? >> >> The Japanese have and fit chains. > >Heh. "Honda VF". > >If you'd have said "gear drive" you would have appeared >much, much smarter. ;-) Expensive solution that was tried and abandoned 25 years ago. > >> They also looked at the advantages of desmodromic valve gear >> and decided to fit springs. > >Funny how the Ducati MotoGP bikes rev higher than the Jap >bikes and don't suffer from valve bounce, whereas the Yamahas >are experimenting with pneumatic valves to keep up! Really, how many are in the shops ? On road bikes both are totally irrelevant > >> Ducati - finding expensive, maintenance intensive solutions >> to problems that don't exist. > >I don't see =A340 every two years as expensive for replacing >belts, and it's hardly difficult to do either, let alone >intensive. If you've got the belt gauge it takes 10 minutes >to change the belts. Done as part of an all-round service >routine you'd hardly notice it. > Compared to a chain which effectively lasts the life of the bike and doesn't snap destroying the engine. Oh and the replacement period is rubbish as the ones in cars last 4 times as long and probably cost less to replace than your Ducati dealer would charge.
From: Simon Wilson on 30 Mar 2010 06:53 On 29/03/2010 23:25, antonye wrote: > If you've got the belt gauge Type 1 index finger? <press> "That's about right". -- /Simon
From: DozynSleepy on 30 Mar 2010 07:32 On 30/03/2010 07:15, The Older Gentleman wrote: > Shaun<shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT), antonye<antonye(a)ukrm.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Ever wondered how strong they are? >> >> The Japanese have and fit chains. >> >> They also looked at the advantages of desmodromic valve gear and >> decided to fit springs. >> >> Ducati - finding expensive, maintenance intensive solutions to Show me a superbike that isn't expensive and intensive to maintain ? This table of World Superbike Champions / FIM SBK / WSBK from 1988 to 2009 shows 16 to Ducati, 5 to Honda and one to Suzuki http://www.motorsportsetc.com/champs/wsbk.htm Analysis anyone ? >> problems that don't exist. Such as ? > > Nice troll :-)) http://www.bluming.com/projects/desmo.htm <fx: retard voice > Pretty picture <fx: pulls hook from mouth > -- DozynSleepy Ducatenstein ST4s
From: TOG on 30 Mar 2010 07:38
On 30 Mar, 08:13, shaun.jamesons...(a)ntlworld.com (Shaun) wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:25:28 -0700 (PDT), antonye <anto...(a)ukrm.net> > wrote: > > >Shaun wrote: > >> antonye wrote: > > >> >Ever wondered how strong they are? > > >> The Japanese have and fit chains. > > >Heh. "Honda VF". > > >If you'd have said "gear drive" you would have appeared > >much, much smarter. ;-) > > Expensive solution that was tried and abandoned 25 years ago. > Complete and utter nonsense. > <snip> > > Compared to a chain which effectively lasts the life of the bike and > doesn't snap destroying the engine. Or a camchain tensioner that fails? > > Oh and the replacement period is rubbish as the ones in cars last 4 > times as long Because the car belts are at least four times as long, and therefore the load per tooth is a quarter. Oh, you didn't think of that. > and probably cost less to replace than your Ducati > dealer would charge. There really is no limit to your ignorance, is there? Last year, Classic Bike did a nice step-by-step article on Ducati belt replacement which showed it could be done in half an hour, both belts. There's a video on YouTube which shows it being done, in one take, and the time was about nine minutes. Admittedly, on an engine out of the bike and on a workbench stand, but still it's far quicker than the ignorant[1] think. [1] That's you, sweetie. |