From: Lozzo on
Andy Bonwick wrote:

> Every day really is a school day because most people I've spoken to
> who loved the original VFR750 and VFR800 said they went away from them
> because of servicing costs. I suppose this ties in with Lozzos point
> about complexity but it wasn't so much that they were Luddites as that
> they were cheapskates.

No-one knew the servicing costs when they were first released, but
everyone knew they'd done away with gear driven cams.

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From: Lozzo on
Shaun wrote:

> The VFR1000R was a road legal racing bike designed to dominate
> production bike racing. That pearl of wisdom seems to have passed you
> by.

The reality seems to have passed you by. In typical Honda fashion they
built a flagship model that had everything desireable in its day - such
as the different Comstar wheels, and gear driven cams - and then sold
them mainly for road use at a hugely inflated price making them quite
desireable collectors items. They did the same with the NR750 - it
wasn't a race bike by any means despite all the technology applied to
it, and nor was the VF1000R.

Again, you're just proving your ignorance.

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From: ogden on
Krusty wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>
> > SteveH wrote:
> >
> > > If you're buying from a brand such as Ducati, you are essentially
> > > buying the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari
> >
> > If you buy a Desmoseidici or, to a lesser degree, a top-end MV
> > Augusta, you're buying the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari.
>
> Any MV F4 is by definition more Ferrari than any Ducati. Or did Ferrari
> design the Desmoseidici engine too?

Hmm. This bait's malfunctioning.

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From: The Older Gentleman on
Shaun <shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:

> I claimed the solution was abandoned 25 years ago.
>
> Now remind us when the VFR was designed ?.

25 years ago. And the design was *abandoned* seven years ago. You lose.


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From: Andy Bonwick on
On 30 Mar 2010 23:25:16 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

>Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
>> Every day really is a school day because most people I've spoken to
>> who loved the original VFR750 and VFR800 said they went away from them
>> because of servicing costs. I suppose this ties in with Lozzos point
>> about complexity but it wasn't so much that they were Luddites as that
>> they were cheapskates.
>
>No-one knew the servicing costs when they were first released, but
>everyone knew they'd done away with gear driven cams.

Which had no effect on servicing costs?