From: Lozzo on 30 Mar 2010 19:25 Andy Bonwick wrote: > Every day really is a school day because most people I've spoken to > who loved the original VFR750 and VFR800 said they went away from them > because of servicing costs. I suppose this ties in with Lozzos point > about complexity but it wasn't so much that they were Luddites as that > they were cheapskates. No-one knew the servicing costs when they were first released, but everyone knew they'd done away with gear driven cams. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
From: Lozzo on 30 Mar 2010 19:30 Shaun wrote: > The VFR1000R was a road legal racing bike designed to dominate > production bike racing. That pearl of wisdom seems to have passed you > by. The reality seems to have passed you by. In typical Honda fashion they built a flagship model that had everything desireable in its day - such as the different Comstar wheels, and gear driven cams - and then sold them mainly for road use at a hugely inflated price making them quite desireable collectors items. They did the same with the NR750 - it wasn't a race bike by any means despite all the technology applied to it, and nor was the VF1000R. Again, you're just proving your ignorance. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
From: ogden on 30 Mar 2010 19:37 Krusty wrote: > ogden wrote: > > > SteveH wrote: > > > > > If you're buying from a brand such as Ducati, you are essentially > > > buying the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari > > > > If you buy a Desmoseidici or, to a lesser degree, a top-end MV > > Augusta, you're buying the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari. > > Any MV F4 is by definition more Ferrari than any Ducati. Or did Ferrari > design the Desmoseidici engine too? Hmm. This bait's malfunctioning. -- ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250
From: The Older Gentleman on 31 Mar 2010 02:03 Shaun <shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > I claimed the solution was abandoned 25 years ago. > > Now remind us when the VFR was designed ?. 25 years ago. And the design was *abandoned* seven years ago. You lose. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Andy Bonwick on 31 Mar 2010 02:52
On 30 Mar 2010 23:25:16 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >Andy Bonwick wrote: > >> Every day really is a school day because most people I've spoken to >> who loved the original VFR750 and VFR800 said they went away from them >> because of servicing costs. I suppose this ties in with Lozzos point >> about complexity but it wasn't so much that they were Luddites as that >> they were cheapskates. > >No-one knew the servicing costs when they were first released, but >everyone knew they'd done away with gear driven cams. Which had no effect on servicing costs? |