From: ogden on
SteveH wrote:
> ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote:
>
> > SteveH wrote:
> > > Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > And if further evidence is needed, the cambelt service on my GT, while
> > > > officially at 72k, is generally recommended at rather a lot less than
> > > > that, and comes in at >£500 for an independent. Granted that includes
> > > > water pump, tensioners and so on, and it's the worst of the bunch, but
> > > > even the TS, which has *lots* more room, is >£400.
> > >
> > > I've said this before. You need to find a new tame mechanic.
> > >
> > > 200 quid for a belt change and service here.
> >
> > Re other post, it's about that for a belt change on my motor, which
> > while it might not quite be as quick off the mark as something as light
> > as your ducati, will give it a good run for its money generally.
>
> It's not just about the peformance (although comparing cars with bikes
> is almost always a futile comparison

Hey, you started it.


> If you're buying from a brand such as Ducati, you are essentially buying
> the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari

If you buy a Desmoseidici or, to a lesser degree, a top-end MV Augusta,
you're buying the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari.

If you buy a high-end Ducati (916/996/1098) you're buying the 2-wheeled
equivalent of an Alfa Romeo.

If you buy a low-end Ducati (900ss, etc) you're buying the 2-wheeled
equivalent of a Fiat Punto with a Lancia badge slapped on the front.

--
ogden | gsxr1000 | rgv250

From: Salad Dodger on
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:48:58 GMT, shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com
(Shaun) wrote:

>72,000 miles is 6 Ducati 996 belt changes at 70 quid for parts each
>time.
>
>So thats 420 quid even if you do it yourself.

Belts are a 100k service item on a *proper* gentleman's motorcycle.

Fifty quid a pair.
From: SteveH on
Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:

> I know none of mine come close. The GT is at least 40 short IIRC, but I
> guess Scoobys and Evos would probably be over it?

They have running costs which make the costs of running a 916 positively
bargain basement.
--
SteveH
From: Shaun on
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:52:33 +0100, italiancar(a)gmail.com (SteveH)
wrote:

>ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote:
>
>> SteveH wrote:
>> > Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > > And if further evidence is needed, the cambelt service on my GT, while
>> > > officially at 72k, is generally recommended at rather a lot less than
>> > > that, and comes in at >�500 for an independent. Granted that includes
>> > > water pump, tensioners and so on, and it's the worst of the bunch, but
>> > > even the TS, which has *lots* more room, is >�400.
>> >
>> > I've said this before. You need to find a new tame mechanic.
>> >
>> > 200 quid for a belt change and service here.
>>
>> Re other post, it's about that for a belt change on my motor, which
>> while it might not quite be as quick off the mark as something as light
>> as your ducati, will give it a good run for its money generally.
>
>It's not just about the peformance (although comparing cars with bikes
>is almost always a futile comparison - given that bikes are much more
>highly strung, in general, than anything bar exotica).
>
>If you're buying from a brand such as Ducati, you are essentially buying
>the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Ferrari - yes, some of the Jap. brands can
>build something that's just as fast, or faster, with better reliability,
>but you make the choice of buying something mass produced on a
>production line vs something with a much more 'hand crafted' input and
>pay the price in running costs.
>--

Ducati is nowhere near a 2 wheel Ferrari

If you could buy a Ferrari for the price of a Japanese sports car the
vast majority of people would buy the Ferrari

Ducati do offer bikes for the same price as Japanese sports bikes and
the vast majority of people buy Japanese


From: Shaun on
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:59:54 +0100, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Shaun <shaun.jamesonspam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> The majority of cars have belts for the same reason Ducatis have -
>> they are cheap to manufacture.
>
>And they're quieter.

Chains would drown out the noise of the Termignoni race cans