From: ogden on
SteveH wrote:
> The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > >Not quite true - the ST1100 belt requires changing every 90,000.
> > > >
> > > But its basically designed to be so lowly stressed its effectively a
> > > car engine in a bike frame.
> >
> > So?
> >
> > Um, what cars use the ST engine, then?
>
> And how many cars put out circa 100bhp from 1.1 litres?

Not many cars have an engine as small as 1.1 litres these days, but of
the ones that do the VW Polo has an option for a 1.2 litre engine with
104hp.

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From: The Older Gentleman on
Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > Steve <steveloukes(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 30 Mar, 08:13, shaun.jamesons...(a)ntlworld.com (Shaun) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Compared to a chain which effectively lasts the life of the bike and
> >>> doesn't snap destroying the engine.
> >>>
> >>> Oh and the replacement period is rubbish as the ones in cars last 4
> >>> times as long and probably cost less to replace than your Ducati
> >>> dealer would charge.
> >> Not quite true - the ST1100 belt requires changing every 90,000.
> >>
> > Gold Wings have long change intervals too.
> >
> > He's wonderfully ignorant, isn't he?
> >
> >
>
> Is he new, or has he been here before?

Dunno. We've had a few self-appointed motorcycle FOAKs here before. They
never last long.

This one's read a few magazines, failed to spot the mistakes, and
assumed everything printed therein is Gospel.

I'm waiting for:

The GPZ900R was the first Japanese water-cooled inline four.

The BMW K was the first fuel-injected production bike

The CBR600 was the first Honda with its barrels cast into the crankcases

And similar demonstrations of ignorance.


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From: SteveH on
ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote:

> > And how many cars put out circa 100bhp from 1.1 litres?
>
> Not many cars have an engine as small as 1.1 litres these days, but of
> the ones that do the VW Polo has an option for a 1.2 litre engine with
> 104hp.

Using a twin-charger setup with a dubious record for reliability.

(It may have been fixed by now - but 18 months ago VW had to withdraw
the 1.4TSI and re-introduce the old 1.6)
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SteveH
From: ts on
antonye <antonye(a)ukrm.net> wrote:

> ts wrote:
> >
> > An educated guess on how much strength a 2 year old / 12.000
> > miles used one typically has lost?
>
> Too many variables - positioning, storage conditions, mileage,
> contamination, etc.

That seems reasonable, and with tensioning thrown into the equation as
well.

(snip)

> However, since those were done it has lasted 4 years without
> needing new ones. I check them over, check the tension and
> make sure they're good enough to reuse.

That was what made me wondering - the ones I took off mine looked very
nice; no fraying or visual signs of wear. But prophylactic fitting of
new ones is cheap insurance.

> They really are a doddle to change, I don't know why people
> get so hung up on them. . . .

Agree, fitting new belts on the 750SS was too easy to be a challenge.
Only getting the horizontal belt cover off was a bit tricky, until I
realised I could loosen the oil hose that runs outside it without
spilling engine oil over the side of the engine.

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From: Catman on
The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> Steve <steveloukes(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30 Mar, 08:13, shaun.jamesons...(a)ntlworld.com (Shaun) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Compared to a chain which effectively lasts the life of the bike and
>>>>> doesn't snap destroying the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh and the replacement period is rubbish as the ones in cars last 4
>>>>> times as long and probably cost less to replace than your Ducati
>>>>> dealer would charge.
>>>> Not quite true - the ST1100 belt requires changing every 90,000.
>>>>
>>> Gold Wings have long change intervals too.
>>>
>>> He's wonderfully ignorant, isn't he?
>>>
>>>
>> Is he new, or has he been here before?
>
> Dunno. We've had a few self-appointed motorcycle FOAKs here before. They
> never last long.
>
> This one's read a few magazines, failed to spot the mistakes, and
> assumed everything printed therein is Gospel.


I wonder if they wander in from one of the web forums where we get
re-posted. I suspect Jack Butler, sock puppet spotter extraordinaire may
well be something similar.


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