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From: CT on 20 Oct 2009 05:47 Jim wrote: > CT wrote: > > And for my (hypothetical) CT's Photography Competition 2009 I'd > > categorise entries thus: > > > > 1. Single frame, no post-processing. > > 2. Single frame, post-processing allowed. > > 2. Multiple frame (max. 3), post-processing allowed. > > 3. Open category - anything goes. > > And maybe 4. Film :o) > > I think that's problematic, in that if you don't allow any > post-processing the metering on modern cameras is so good that pretty > much anyone who is in the right place at the right time can take a > winning picture - where's the skill gone? where is the art? And what's wrong with that? If the judges, viewers et al. are all aware that it's a "snap", I don't see what the issue is. If you want skill and art, enter your photos in one of the categories that allows it. -- Chris
From: Simes on 20 Oct 2009 06:02 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:32:26 +0100, Vass wrote: > "Simes" <simes(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:hbjm2s$icj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > >>> Yep. Most of them have been affected/inflicted by the current craze >>> for sliding the saturation lever too far and also doing HDR in excess. >>> Bloody awful. >> >> It's the current trend old bean. HDR can look good in certain >> circumstances - but mostly it makes the photo look like a CGI image and >> not real at all. > > agreed. but sometimes even though its "not as the eye would see it" the > effect is quite good > Here's one of mine. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/canon-eos/3239671634/in/ set-72157619731686007/ > I guess its personal taste. That's nice. I agree - photography can never be as the eye sees it - the camera and the eye/brain work differently - but HDR is an effect it's easy to overdo.
From: Jim on 20 Oct 2009 06:08 CT wrote: > Jim wrote: >> CT wrote: >> > And for my (hypothetical) CT's Photography Competition 2009 I'd >> > categorise entries thus: >> > >> > 1. Single frame, no post-processing. >> > 2. Single frame, post-processing allowed. >> > 2. Multiple frame (max. 3), post-processing allowed. >> > 3. Open category - anything goes. >> > And maybe 4. Film :o) >> >> I think that's problematic, in that if you don't allow any >> post-processing the metering on modern cameras is so good that pretty >> much anyone who is in the right place at the right time can take a >> winning picture - where's the skill gone? where is the art? > > And what's wrong with that? If the judges, viewers et al. are all > aware that it's a "snap", I don't see what the issue is. If you want > skill and art, enter your photos in one of the categories that allows > it. Well, it's just a set of pixels - why do you care whether there has been post-processing? Even the processes involved in getting the data off the CCD and turning it into a JPEG involve some manipulation of the image. You're like the people who want magazines to put warnings on the pictures where the models have been touched up.
From: Champ on 20 Oct 2009 06:14 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:43:56 +0100, Jim <null(a)0.0.0.0> wrote: >CT wrote: >> And for my (hypothetical) CT's Photography Competition 2009 I'd >> categorise entries thus: >> >> 1. Single frame, no post-processing. >> 2. Single frame, post-processing allowed. >> 2. Multiple frame (max. 3), post-processing allowed. >> 3. Open category - anything goes. >> And maybe 4. Film :o) >I think that's problematic, in that if you don't allow any >post-processing the metering on modern cameras is so good that pretty >much anyone who is in the right place at the right time can take a >winning picture - where's the skill gone? where is the art? I'm old fashioned enough to believe that most of the creativity should be about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing and framing the picture, not in the dark room/at the PC. -- Champ ZX10R (road), ZX10R (race; breaking), GPz750 turbo (classic) Hayabusa (touring) To email me, neal at my domain should work.
From: Alex Ferrier on 20 Oct 2009 06:20
Vass wrote: > > Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8314105.stm >> Holy shite. What a mess. > > oh what the hell, in for a penny... > > may favourite of my HDR''s to date > http://www.flickr.com/photos/canon-eos/3033008862/sizes/l/ That looks a bit garish to my untrained eyes. -- Alex BMW R1150GS MZ Saxon 301 DIAABTCOD#3 MSWF#4 UKRMFBC#6 Ibw#35 BOB#8 Windy's "little soldier" |