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From: Andy Bonwick on 8 Feb 2010 16:38 On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:45:16 -0000, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >Andy Bonwick wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:48:59 -0000, "'Hog" >> <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >> snip> >> >>> ICBW (very) but it appears to me that scuba down to 40feet or so is >>> rather straightforward. >> >> Really? >> >> You're not diving in the right places. > >Many of us are daft but very few of us are daft enough to dive in caves >ITYWF Then you're missing out on a whole new experience. Not all caves are restricted and dangerous but they all teach you to be able to dive in braille.
From: Mick Whittingham on 8 Feb 2010 17:19 In article <4b701dad$0$2492$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> writes >Kevin Gleeson wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:48:59 -0000, "'Hog" > >>> ICBW (very) but it appears to me that scuba down to 40feet or so is >>> rather straightforward. >> >> Sorta. You can still over-run your bottom time at that depth but are >> unlikely to because you will either a/ be a novice and use up your air >> before you get near deco time or b/ not be a novice and get back to >> the surface. >> >> That said , the greatest pressure changes take place close to the >> surface - double air pressure (and therfore volume in the first 10m >> from the surface). If you do run out of air, don't forget to breathe >> out on the way up or your lungs will get very messy . . . >> >> But yeah, generally 40ft is a comfortable one where as long as you >> know the basics, you are generally fine. > >Kinda my point. You can learn to dive relatively safely in 40ft of shallow >water in a day. Assuming one is not a complete fuckwit and has full control >of the faculties. A Darwin Zone perhaps, as I've seen someone nearly drown >themselves in a 2m swimming pool learning to use a 'lung. > There are two types of students I've been involved with trying to train divers: 1/ The cocky I don't have to pay attention I can do anything. 2/ The nervous / worried / scared who listen to everything I tell them. It's the second sort that don't get them selves into trouble as often. [FX] Following group of students in an open water dive. 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 er? 6 where is 6 oh sh*t he's on the surface again. [/FX] -- Mick Whittingham 'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.' William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
From: 'Hog on 9 Feb 2010 07:41 Andy Bonwick wrote: > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:45:16 -0000, "'Hog" > <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Andy Bonwick wrote: >>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:48:59 -0000, "'Hog" >>> <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> snip> >>> >>>> ICBW (very) but it appears to me that scuba down to 40feet or so is >>>> rather straightforward. >>> >>> Really? >>> >>> You're not diving in the right places. >> >> Many of us are daft but very few of us are daft enough to dive in >> caves ITYWF > > Then you're missing out on a whole new experience. Not all caves are > restricted and dangerous but they all teach you to be able to dive in > braille. I refer Sir to the comments between Champ and myself. Diving is fun in bright clear warm water with lots of fish and coral. I admit caving is frustrating when the fun is halted by water and we free dived up to about 20ft, but the water was crystal clear. -- Hog
From: 'Hog on 9 Feb 2010 10:49 boots wrote: > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:48:59 -0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, 'Hog says: > >> ICBW (very) but it appears to me that scuba down to 40feet or so is >> rather straightforward. > > If nothing goes wrong. There have been fatal injuries in less than a > couple of metres. I did mention Darwin and swimming pools -- Hog
From: Kevin Gleeson on 9 Feb 2010 19:50
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:41:32 -0000, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >Andy Bonwick wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:45:16 -0000, "'Hog" >> <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Andy Bonwick wrote: >>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:48:59 -0000, "'Hog" >>>> <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> snip> >>>> >>>>> ICBW (very) but it appears to me that scuba down to 40feet or so is >>>>> rather straightforward. >>>> >>>> Really? >>>> >>>> You're not diving in the right places. >>> >>> Many of us are daft but very few of us are daft enough to dive in >>> caves ITYWF >> >> Then you're missing out on a whole new experience. Not all caves are >> restricted and dangerous but they all teach you to be able to dive in >> braille. > >I refer Sir to the comments between Champ and myself. Diving is fun in >bright clear warm water with lots of fish and coral. > >I admit caving is frustrating when the fun is halted by water and we free >dived up to about 20ft, but the water was crystal clear. Mate I was working with about 20 years ago went diving in the Nullarbor Desert here in Oz. Yes, there is a massive cave system under the desert. While the team were down there it flooded through (I can't recall the exact details now). They were trapped down there for 2-3 days. He was shooting the dive for the video production company we were working for at the time. I think they were going for a record for the longest cave dive or something. They were lucky to get out alive. There's quite a bit of broadcast camera gear (admittedly somewhat out of date now, but worth probably $100k back then) sitting in a hole in the middle of Australia. I don't mind cave diving, but I think that experience would put the wind up me somewhat. |